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re: The longer this goes on do you think Miles will screw it up?

Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:09 am to
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
8212 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:09 am to
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Unless he moves quickly we will get slaughterd by GT and lose out on the best DC'S.


Exactly where are we "loosing" these great DC's to?

NO one else has named a new DC. Maybe Kiffin, but that his daddy and it's still not announced. IMO a lot of these potential DC's are waiting on MILES... it's the best talent ready and waiting, and they'd want to go there if they possibly can.


CHILL.
This post was edited on 12/6/08 at 10:11 am
Posted by zack7552
Lawton, OK
Member since Jul 2008
4182 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:15 am to
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Les raised the Crystal Ball last year


and this year?

Mad props to Big Easy and j0nathanr0y for some amazing farking



Posted by TigersInExile
OhioTiger
Member since Nov 2008
901 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:38 am to
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makes me want to eliminate 60% of TD.com posters

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:46 am to
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I know that Miles made a complete blunder by waiting too long the last time and we were pretty much "stuck" with Mallveto


This is just flat out wrong.

Tenuta was there ready for the taking. Miles made the DECISION to hire Mallory (and Peveto). Was it a poor decision? Absolutely. Was he a victim of being slow? No.
Posted by TigersInExile
OhioTiger
Member since Nov 2008
901 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:47 am to
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Miles comes out and blows some folks out as you would like, the other inbreds he might be considering would say "well he might treat me like that".

DING! DING! DING! ... and Miles has a stellar rep amongst the coaching fraternity in this regard. No harm in trying to help the guy[s] you have to replace save a little public face by getting them positions elsewhere.

"You're fired!" plays lots better on Trump's old reality show, by far, than it generally does when replacing assistant FB coaches ... especially since there is that delicate balance of egos to be dealt with, nowhere more so than in CFB coaches at all levels.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:48 am to
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First, why would you want a simple defense?


I think gotygers thinks defense in general are not complicated.

Posted by TigersInExile
OhioTiger
Member since Nov 2008
901 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:49 am to
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A defense is not that complicated and can be installed quickly.

This post was edited on 12/6/08 at 10:50 am
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33424 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:51 am to
Not too concerned unless you see Robinson, Koenning and Chavis landing other jobs.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9167 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 11:03 am to
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I think gotygers thinks defense in general are not complicated.

You're right. I misread it. Guess I just assumed no one would ever suggest a college defense is simple, even if it produces results like what we saw this year.

Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3459 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 11:19 am to
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Les didn't "screw up" when he promoted from within.


Uh, yes, yes he did. I understand the rationale behind it in keeping a system in place that all of the coaches and players were familiar with. But, overall, the dual promotion was a HUGE mistake/disaster.

And, in thinking a complete defensive package/scheme change could be installed prior to the bowl game, I think not. Way too much info to grasp in 3 weeks. Now, he probably can refine and even (gasp!) disguise some of the current coverage and blitz packages and make them more effective.

I'm simply hoping the hire is made prior to the bowl game to give a little infusion of energy and confidence to the embattled defense. Not a must in my opinion unless we see many of the DC candidates rumored to be in the running signing at other schools. And at the present time, that isn't happening.

Miles is fully aware of the magnitude of this decision. He already got his mulligan on the Mallveto promotion. Let's hope he makes the right hire this time.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28974 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 12:08 pm to
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Tenuta was there ready for the taking. Miles made the DECISION to hire Mallory (and Peveto). Was it a poor decision? Absolutely. Was he a victim of being slow? No.



Actually, it as a good bit of both. Miles had his nose in the Michigan job rather than focusing on our d coordinator.
Posted by coolmonk
Member since Jan 2007
1218 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 12:13 pm to
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There is a reason why Skip hired Miles instead of hiring you [rantards].


Skip is all-knowing. Especially in naming baseball coaches (RIP Smoke)...
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 12:37 pm to
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Actually, it as a good bit of both. Miles had his nose in the Michigan job rather than focusing on our d coordinator.


That's ridiculous.

The Michigan scenario was decided prior to the season's end and within days of Pelini being named Nebraska head coach.

Miles made a terrible decision. But, it wasn't a "screw up". He didn't botch the search. For whatever reason, no matter how flawed, Miles wanted Mallory. It was a terrible decision. But, call it what it is.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81671 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 12:42 pm to
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Les didn't "screw up" when he promoted from within.

Les raised the Crystal Ball last year and with continued great recruiting and better defensive effort, he'll raise another Crystal Ball within 3 years again.

Book It.


damn. What time is Santa coming to your house?
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15422 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 1:16 pm to
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The longer this goes on do you think Miles will screw it up?


Like he screwed up winning 11 games in the hurricane devastated 2005 seson in which we still won the SEC West?
Like he screwed up winning 11 games in 2006 including a BCS bowl win?
Like he screwed up winning 12 games, an SEC championship, and a NC in 2007 while being the only LSU coach to ever beat Fla, Aub, and Bama in the same year?
He's had one major decision that he could be called out on and tons of great ones, yet you choose to believe he will "screw up". Thanks for the loyalty.
This post was edited on 12/6/08 at 1:18 pm
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 1:26 pm to
No ... all the names being mentioned would be significant upgrades. From what I read, Koennig isn't aggressive enough to suit me ... not sure Chavis is either. I think I would favor Tenuta. Maybe this coaching staff needs a prick (like Saban).
Posted by gotygers
west St.Tammany
Member since Sep 2007
3016 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 1:42 pm to
After watching Tenuta on youtube I think he's the man for the job.Very agressive def. .
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
11633 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 2:01 pm to
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damn. What time is Santa coming to your house?


What was LSU's record the year after the 2003 Championship....please remind me.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28974 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 3:07 pm to
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He didn't botch the search.


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For whatever reason, no matter how flawed, Miles wanted Mallory. It was a terrible decision


I would call that a botched search based on the performance this year.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28974 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 3:09 pm to
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Like he screwed up winning 11 games in the hurricane devastated 2005 seson in which we still won the SEC West?
Like he screwed up winning 11 games in 2006 including a BCS bowl win?
Like he screwed up winning 12 games, an SEC championship, and a NC in 2007 while being the only LSU coach to ever beat Fla, Aub, and Bama in the same year?
He's had one major decision that he could be called out on and tons of great ones, yet you choose to believe he will "screw up". Thanks for the loyalty.


Look, I am HUGE supporter of Miles. The bottom line is that he fricked up the decision last year....period. The longer he fricks around with this decision this year then the better chance there is he fricks it up again. If these candidates that have been mentioned are interested in the job then make the damn hire and let's get on with it.
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