re: #TeamFisher

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Herman may very well end up being the better coach

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Entirely possible. You're buying upside with Herman. You're hopeful that he's the star coach he's being touted as. We don't yet know if he can maintain a top flight program. If the LSU administration interviews him and feels confident that he's the man for the job, I'd be more than on board because I think he's a fine coach.

Like you said, I have more confidence in Jimbo. He's just got a more tangible body of work and I feel good about him being successful at LSU.

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What make Fisher fans think he could recruit on the level of Saban? or are we just going to be satisfied being the second tier team in the SEC west?

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No one recruits like Saban.

Fisher can recruit just as well as Miles though which is plenty good enough.

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What make Fisher fans think he could recruit on the level of Saban? or are we just going to be satisfied being the second tier team in the SEC west?

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According to 247 recruiting rankings

2016: FSU 2 LSU 3
2015: FSU 3 LSU 6
2014: FSU 4 LSU 2
2013: FSU 11 LSU 6
2012: FSU 3 LSU 14
2011: FSU 2 LSU 8
2010: FSU 7 LSU 8

Well he's landed better classes than LSU in 5 of his 7 years as head coach so there's that.

To put it bluntly, teenage football players are bandwagon as frick. That's why Alabama is racking up 5 star talent 2 deep on the depth chart. Want to knock off the Saban machine? Win a few national championships and suddenly it'll be en vogue to play for the Tigers.

Jimbo has always been my guy. He checks all the boxes.

He is the home run hire.

You go after him like Michigan went after Haurbaugh IMO.

In other words...you don't let him say no.

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so you think he will land better classes at LSU than he landed at FSU

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No idea. My point is that I'd be unconcerned with Jimbo's recruiting ability if he came to LSU. He's proven to be a fine recruiter. I'm not eaten up with shortsighted little brother "BUT SABAN!" syndrome.

What Alabama is doing is unprecedented. It's hard to beat Saban, its hard to out recruit Saban. But Nick is 65 years old. He's not going to be there forever. LSU's responsibility is to hire a coach that brings the best long term outlook for LSU. I'm not going to irrationally hold a new coach to the Saban scale.

It would be completely irrational to hire a new coach based on "Can he beat Saban" and "Can he out recruit Saban". Because there's few to zero coaches who can consistently accomplish that.

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No idea. My point is that I'd be unconcerned with Jimbo's recruiting ability if he came to LSU. He's proven to be a fine recruiter. I'm not eaten up with shortsighted little brother "BUT SABAN!" syndrome.

What Alabama is doing is unprecedented. It's hard to beat Saban, its hard to out recruit Saban. But Nick is 65 years old. He's not going to be there forever. LSU's responsibility is to hire a coach that brings the best long term outlook for LSU. I'm not going to irrationally hold a new coach to the Saban scale.

It would be completely irrational to hire a new coach based on "Can he beat Saban" and "Can he out recruit Saban". Because there's few to zero coaches who can consistently accomplish that.

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Well said. There is no Saban equivalent currently out there and it's likely that there will never be one. We just have to make the best possible hire we can and see where he can take us.

That said, I don't see how anyone can look at Jimbo and have questions about his recruiting ability.

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The thing that I question about Jimbo is that he brings in great recruiting classes, but still loses 3 games a year unless he has a Heisman winner at quarterback. And that's in the ACC. Will LSU fans be happy with a hugely talented roster and 3 losses? Also, does Aranda stay if Jimbo is hired? I don't know.

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BINGO. Jimbo under performs worse than Miles did. So they both had a national championship within the last ten years, plus they both have top ranked recruiting classes year in and year out. Remove Winston and he's an annual 8-4 to 9-3 head coach.

And NO. Aranda is a gone Pecan if the administration makes the monumental mistake of bringing Jimbo here. Think outside the box and know that he would jump at going to Texas with his old buddy Herman as D.C. with an open checkbook. The only chance you have keeping Aranda is promoting him to HC or keeping him under CEO.

I just want to see some offense at this point

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The only chance you have keeping Aranda is promoting him to HC or keeping him under CEO.

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So Aranda would only stay if Orgeron was the coach but wouldn't if Jimbo was and wanted to keep him? That is retarded. He's known coach O for all of 9 months and was his superior on the staff until a month and a half ago. He has no more allegiance to O than he would a super respected offensive guy like Fisher. There is a good chance Fisher would want to keep him.