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re: Schiano no longer a candidate for Rutgers.....negotiations fell through

Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:53 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:53 am to
Read this report of how pathetic Rutgers was on this: LINK

And this read this about the fallout, with lots of their biggest boosters canceling tickets, donations -- even taking Rutgers out of their will: LINK

"It was just too much" for Schiano to be the 10th highest paid coach in the Big Ten. Incredible.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:13 am to
It’s kind of funny Rutgers people are melting and threatening a bunch of stuff because they won’t hire schiano, couple years after Tennessee threw the same tantrum for acting trying to hire him
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22560 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:29 am to
Wow didn’t know he was in position to have any demands
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:30 am to
Rutgers peeps on Reddit are saying it's not the money demands that ended the negotiations but the fact that Schiano wanted to essentially be his own AD having full control over all football related things w/no oversight from their actual AD.

Obviously such a claim should be taken with a huge grain of salt but it would make more sense than Rutgers balking at football facilities that are supposedly already in the works.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:29 pm to
Fanbase is pissed.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 3:18 pm to
Pissed at Schiano or Administration?
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:28 pm to
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Pissed at Schiano or Administration?

The overwhelming majority of fans are furious with Pat Hobbs for botching this process.

If Rutgers were as high-profile as Tennessee, we'd be talking about this as one of the great dumpster fires in history. This is easily one of the worst searches we've seen in the many years of this board.

Hobbs entered contract negotations with a school legend, alienating every other acceptable candidate, then botched those negotations. His #2 choice is not Butch Jones or Joe Moorehead - it's some no-name DB coach from Ohio State.

This is a failure of epic proprtions.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38700 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:03 pm to
fricking clown show. They like the big10 money but don't want to spend big boy money
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10221 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:26 pm to
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This is a failure of epic proprtions.


As a Tulane fan i realize I have no room to talk about ones school making coaching hire blunders but this is impressive.

Any chance that the a.d. gets fired and Schiano gets another look?
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14591 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Hobbs entered contract negotations with a school legend, alienating every other acceptable candidate, then botched those negotations. His #2 choice is not Butch Jones or Joe Moorehead - it's some no-name DB coach from Ohio State.


The last OSU assistant worked so well, why not try that again
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:57 pm to
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Any chance that the a.d. gets fired and Schiano gets another look?

A lot of very important people are very pissed.

There's a really strong chance of Hobbs getting fired very soon.

There's a ton of context. Hobbs hired Chris Ash for cheap when he could have hired Cristobal, PJ Fleck, Al Golden, etc, for more. That's excusable.

What's inexcusable, though, was Hobbs giving Chris Ash an extension just a few years ago that both boosted his salary and buyout. It's worse because Ash and Hobbs have the same agent.

So, Hobbs not only hires this failure, he also extends the failure, then has to raise money to fire the failure. Cool.

The Schiano incident is now well known. People are missing that the negotiations with Schiano basically tanked potential deals with Moorehead, Butch Jones, etc.

Oh, and the current president of the school, Robert Barchi, is in his final year. He's a lame duck.

So, internally, Rutgers has a lame duck president and an incompetent AD. If they let Hobbs hire some loser, they'll just have to pay to fire Hobbs and later the loser coach in 2-3 years.

Or... fire Hobbs, hire an interim AD and hire Schiano.

Personally, I'd like Hobbs to get the boot and then see Butch Jones hired - good pedigree, good name recognition and no skeletons in the closet - but getting rid of Hobbs is the most important thing, IMO.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:59 pm to
Basically Rutgers saying we aren’t really serious about competing
Posted by BuckeyeATC87
Indiana
Member since Nov 2019
332 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 2:44 am to
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it's some no-name DB coach from Ohio State


You mean Jeff Hafley a guy from New Jersey who has helped turn around the worst defense in the history of Ohio State into the number 1 ranked unit in the country? The same Jeff Hafley that has proven to be an elite recruiter so far? Dude is a great coach and let's be honest after the Schiano miss Rutgers isn't getting a big name hire.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32593 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 7:54 am to
‘The deal was done.’ A behind-the-scenes look at how the Rutgers-Greg Schiano reunion fell apart

quote:

Rutgers had done everything but stuff balloons in the rafters and book College Avenue for a parade. Midway through last week, school officials had begun making plans for a triumphant press conference, even booking a company to set up a stage on the basketball court at the Rutgers Athletic Center. Invitations would go out to the governor, prominent ex-players and other dignitaries. As they prepared the trumpeting press release, public relations staff members collected glowing, celebratory quotes from prominent former football players.

Greg Schiano was coming back as Rutgers football coach.

Rutgers -- the laughingstock of college football -- finally had gotten it right: It would hire the one man who could negotiate the minefield of New Jersey politics and Rutgers pettiness while also delivering on the field. The Rutgers football program, steeped in shame, scandal and losing since Schiano left after the 2011 season, would have hope again — immediately vested in the man who took the Scarlet Knights to six bowl games in his final seven years at Rutgers.

In private conversations with friends and confidants, Schiano was already saying “when,” not “if.” Boosters readied their checkbooks. Fans plotted season-ticket purchases and dreamed of recruiting victories, postseason trips and the resumption of the Rutgers-to-NFL pipeline.

But then, something suddenly went wrong.

On Sunday afternoon, Schiano abruptly withdrew his name from consideration. The shocking news was a gut punch to a despondent fan base that believed Schiano was the only hope to resuscitate a team floundering in a 20-game conference losing streak as it prepares to finish its season this Saturday against No. 8-ranked Penn State, another looming Big Ten blowout.

NJ Advance Media has interviewed more than a dozen people with insight into how and why the Schiano-Rutgers marriage never made it to the altar. Many of them spoke on the condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak for Schiano or the university — and a few still hold out hope that somehow pressure from fans, alumni and boosters will get a deal done.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10221 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:33 am to
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You mean Jeff Hafley a guy from New Jersey who has helped turn around the worst defense in the history of Ohio State into the number 1 ranked unit in the country? The same Jeff Hafley that has proven to be an elite recruiter so far? Dude is a great coach and let's be honest after the Schiano miss Rutgers isn't getting a big name hire.


See Curtis Johnson and Tulane. Slow your tits cupcake.
Posted by mays
Member since Jul 2018
910 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:54 am to
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100% the offer got pulled and this is damage control.


The people in charge did not like being told that they let a dumpster fire burn for so long:


Schiano, armed with a binder that contained a 200-page blueprint, spelled out in painstaking detail what he believed he needed to win at Rutgers.

Schiano came prepared with a scouting report of the team’s current roster and told the Rutgers contingent “things they didn’t even know” about what was going on behind the scenes in their program. He outlined what he needed to build a coaching staff and dropped names of potential assistants.


But Rutgers leadership got their story out first and that's what people will believe.
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 9:56 am
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10356 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:05 am to
Rutgers is banking from Big Ten money but not keeping up. They should be kicked out at the end of this year.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:40 am to
That’s my fear.

They either right the ship or risk getting the boot from the Big Ten.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20778 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Schiano, armed with a binder that contained a 200-page blueprint


Damn Rutgers missed out on a binder plan of their own.

In all seriousness though, Rutgers wants all the cash but doesnt want to spend any of it to maintain it. I think they're comfortable just being a doormat and hope that one of their bargain bin hires can deliver a couple of good seasons before they move on (like James Franklin at Vandy).

Will the Big Ten really dump then though and have all the cable providers in the NJ/NY area drop the BTN? And can they even just straight kick a team out like that?
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 12:59 pm
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