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re: PJ Fleck for LSU: 13-0 & MAC Champs edition (#ReauxTheBeauxt)
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:34 am to Hester Carries
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:34 am to Hester Carries
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CAF.
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:34 am to Draconian Sanctions
Yes I do. I think Herman would be a pretty big gamble as well.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:35 am to TigerFanatic99
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I think I've officially moved off of the Tom Herman bandwagon and am looking for a seat on the PJ Fleck bandwagon.
I am still on the Herman bandwagon but i am also on the Fleck bandwagon if its possible to be on two at the same time
I mean, come on, the dude wears a tie on the sidelines
I wonder if he would still do that when its 95 degrees with 100% humidity on a Baton Rouge Saturday night
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:35 am to bayoujd
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Yes I do. I think Herman would be a pretty big gamble as well.
Who is your #1 guy?
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:38 am to The Godfather
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I mean, come on, the dude wears a tie on the sidelines
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:39 am to The Godfather
yea, but he makes out with his players before the games. That is at least partially offsetting.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:41 am to The Godfather
I don't have a #1. That would depend on what their vision would be, who their assistants would be, etc.
My preferred group: Bill O'Brien, Bobby Petrino, Bob Stoops, Mark Dantonio, Dabo Swinney, John Harbaugh, Chip Kelly.
I would be targeting someone with proven experience at the highest levels and not rolling the dice on someone who has never been there. You might get lucky rolling the dice on Herman or Fleck, but I think it's more likely that you get snake eyes.
My preferred group: Bill O'Brien, Bobby Petrino, Bob Stoops, Mark Dantonio, Dabo Swinney, John Harbaugh, Chip Kelly.
I would be targeting someone with proven experience at the highest levels and not rolling the dice on someone who has never been there. You might get lucky rolling the dice on Herman or Fleck, but I think it's more likely that you get snake eyes.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:42 am to TigerFanatic99
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yea, but he makes out with his players before the games. That is at least partially offsetting.
nah, I am Italian, a kiss on the cheek from a man is a normal thing to me. It's the way i grew up.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:53 am to bayoujd
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Bill O'Brien
A successful NFL head coach
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Bobby Petrino
Has a $10M buyout and not well liked around here
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Bob Stoops
Dear God why?
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Mark Dantonio
He is already 60 years old and I just dont see him leaving Michigan St at this point
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Dabo Swinney
He is not leaving Clemson for any job that is not Alabama
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John Harbaugh
Another successful NFL coach
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Chip Kelly
And yet another NFL coach, and one who hates recruiting and all the other things that go along with being a college coach
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I would be targeting someone with proven experience at the highest levels and not rolling the dice on someone who has never been there
Sounds great, they aren't exactly easy to get. And i notice that your list doesn't include the one coach who has what you are looking for and we might actually have a shot at getting, Jimbo Fisher
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You might get lucky rolling the dice on Herman or Fleck, but I think it's more likely that you get snake eyes.
But if you hit, that's how greatness happens, going with what you know, gets you what you know.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:13 am to bayoujd
Jesus Christ some of you are delusional
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:13 am to The Godfather
How do you know that O'Brien, Harbaugh, or Kelly don't want to be in college and away from the NFL grind? They might. Or maybe they could be convinced. You start at the top, and work your way down the list. You certainly don't go straight to low hanging fruit like Fleck or even Herman.
Why Bob Stoops? Really? His winning percentage is .804. But he needs a change of scenery. Oklahoma is a great program, but I would say that LSU is an easier place to recruit and find elite players. His 9-3 and 10-2 seasons at OU might be 11-1 or 12-0 seasons at LSU with our talent.
I would be fine with Fisher, but prefer some other guys a little more.
Too many people like guys like Fleck or Herman because they haven't been exposed or challenged at lower levels. They have no warts, yet (Herman losing to Navy isn't a good sign). But when they start matching wits with SEC level coaches, you'll see the warts then and Fleck's experience matching wits with coaches from Eastern Michigan, Akron, Toledo, Kent St etc won't seem so valuable.
Why Bob Stoops? Really? His winning percentage is .804. But he needs a change of scenery. Oklahoma is a great program, but I would say that LSU is an easier place to recruit and find elite players. His 9-3 and 10-2 seasons at OU might be 11-1 or 12-0 seasons at LSU with our talent.
I would be fine with Fisher, but prefer some other guys a little more.
Too many people like guys like Fleck or Herman because they haven't been exposed or challenged at lower levels. They have no warts, yet (Herman losing to Navy isn't a good sign). But when they start matching wits with SEC level coaches, you'll see the warts then and Fleck's experience matching wits with coaches from Eastern Michigan, Akron, Toledo, Kent St etc won't seem so valuable.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:02 am to wildtigercat93
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If he's not flexible on stuff like that, then do we really want him?
that was more of my point
we cold devolve into a mini-UT situation
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:03 am to wildtigercat93
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If Les (who came from a bigger program) was convinced/forced to keep Jimbo,
and not bring bill clay to run the D
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:04 am to bayoujd
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How do you know that O'Brien, Harbaugh, or Kelly don't want to be in college and away from the NFL grind?
well considering BOB went to college, hated it, and got the frick out as soon as he could, i don't htink he's the best example lol
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:06 am to bayoujd
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How do you know that O'Brien, Harbaugh, or Kelly don't want to be in college and away from the NFL grind? They might. Or maybe they could be convinced. You start at the top, and work your way down the list. You certainly don't go straight to low hanging fruit like Fleck or even Herman.
I agree you shoot for the moon, but there has to be some kind of indication they are willing to move to college, or maybe they are losing their NFL job anyway.
Those guys, save Chip Kelly (MAYBE), are not coming to LSU. Entertaining the thought is a waste of your brain cells.
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(Herman losing to Navy isn't a good sign)
Coaches lose games. Its just the way it is. Navy has as much talent as Houston does most likely, or close enough that it doesnt matter.
Look at the entire resume. That's why O is out...
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:12 am to Draconian Sanctions
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skip to 20 seconds in and listen to Fleck's speech & imagine him saying Baton Rouge not Kalamazoo. You'll get chills i promise.
I'm on
and now I have a craving for Popeye's
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:19 am to SportTiger1
I like how people rule out Tom Herman for losing to Navy, as if a guy like Nick saban doesn't have MUCH worse losses on his record or anything
I want a guy that can gameplan with the best of the best. Herman has showed an ability to do that. He's been successful every where he's been.
I want a guy that can gameplan with the best of the best. Herman has showed an ability to do that. He's been successful every where he's been.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:43 am to wildtigercat93
and he's a member of MENSA
Posted on 10/19/16 at 1:03 pm to StickD
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I'm on
ReauxingtheBeauxt one convert at a time. i'm working on sigs
Posted on 10/19/16 at 1:48 pm to The Godfather
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Yet people want O who's resume as a head coach is disgustingly bad..but hey he is a cajun baw!!!
O's resume includes coaching at huge programs like USC and LSU. Both recently.
Both of those stops, ESPECIALLY HERE, matter way more imo than at historically awful Ole Miss a decade ago.
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