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Penn State 247 board has a 40 page thread discussing Franklin hiring Sexton

Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33772 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:32 pm
some fans think he's leveraging for facility improvements. others want him gone

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If our boosters and administration won't support the program the way the schools we're attempting to compete with do, then, IMO, we need to have a come to Jesus meeting about the future of our program and where it's headed. I believe most on this board would agree JF has accomplished more than he should have with the resources he was given, and if those resources aren't going to improve, then . . . well, we need to acknowledge that expecting coaches to routinely do more with less recruiting-wise isn't a sustainable model for the success we want.

If we're not going to recruit well, then we need a coach that can level the playing field with an offense that doesn't require game-breaking talent. Obviously, as I said, it's Chicken-Little-esque and may even be seen as throwing in the towel on the arms race in which our boosters and administration have allowed us to get taken behind a shed and beaten Inglorious Basterds style. However, we can't keep expecting coaches to punch above our weight when it comes to resources.

Either support the program the way our competition (at least, the programs we want to be our competition) does, or get weird. There are no alternative options, IMO.

JF losing to Illinois ******* the programs on a lot of levels. If it leads to less support from the administration, then it hits a hell of a lot harder than just another L and another missed CFP.



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JF cares considerably less about the salary portion. Have that one on very good authority.

The overall package figure is going to be gigantic. TWSS


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Unless we win out down the stretch and go 9-3 with a lot of momentum, I’m about ready to be okay with him leaving. I like Franklin but he hasn’t done enough recently to be a top 5 paid coach and do this stupid dance every single year. Fickell, Campbell, Leipold, Mendenhall…there are a lot of good options out there for us to grab.


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I’m legitimately torn. One part of me says, PSU can certainly afford it, so just give the guy what he wants, but make sure the restructured contract has a huge buyout clause so PSU isn’t looking down the barrel of a gun every year…which, this HAS to be a distraction to the team and recruits. So don’t understand the effectiveness of it after a certain point.

The other half of me wants PSU to call his bluff and not really care what he does because we have our own options lined up through back channels.


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We can win only so many dice rolls in a row on coaches. Though about the absolutely insane luck to hit on 4 straight coaching hires (all be them over 70 friggin' years). Could we make it 5 in a row? Yeah, sure. Do I want to test that? Hell. No.

Do what we need to do to keep Franklin and keep the Class of 2022. We all hope each class will be the one to get it done, but the pieces we currently have committed legitimately are the ones we have been missing consistently


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For the people who say "Franklin isn't a Top 5 coach to be pulling this" or "He can't demand money when we just went 4-5 and will go 7-5"

That's not how it works, it's about supply and demand. Saban isn't on the market, neither is Dabo, neither is Day. Everyone knows better than to try for those coaches. Those are crown jewel jobs, PSU is not that (although it is a very good job)

Franklin is by far the best coach that would be willing to leave, hence the demand. Other programs aren't microscopically looking at our our OL looks or how we lost to Illinois, they see what Franklin did at Vanderbilt and then what he did at a sanctioned PSU. That's all still a part of his resume. He's a rebuilder (whether he can get a team to the next level is another question) but programs like USC and LSU could REALLY use that right now.





seems to be a mixed bag.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50934 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:36 pm to
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Jesus, that is a bad look.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41838 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:40 pm to
If he’s worried about interacting with fans who will support a coverup of child rape, then he in no way could handle fans in the SEC like those in Baton Rouge. They’ll eat him alive.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
24523 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:43 pm to


He wouldn’t make it a week in Baton Rouge.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163109 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:46 pm to
the timing of that announcement following a loss to Illinois seems planted

I think Franklin would be a better hire for USC than us
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
17755 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:50 pm to
Sexton is best at getting a gigantic contract at the existing job by using as leverage real or manufactured threats to move on to another job.
Posted by dwright369
Member since Aug 2020
1357 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:51 pm to
Got to remember this is Joe Pa's fanbase we are talking about here. As old (and "old school") as 'ole man Paterno' was, I can't imagine he was the type to be making big-money requests/demands for facility upgrades, etc.

Modern college football is drastically different now than back then, and its common knowledge that all those expensive upgrades and facilities face-lifts are important recruiting tools vital to the Long-Term success of a program.

Don't know how the PSU administration rolls exactly, but I could envision it being a bit of a tough sell for Franklin (or any other HC) to convince his BOS to dig deep in their pocket books for large chunks of cash to keep up with the arms-race thats been going on for years now.

Maybe Franklin feels he needs the weight/pull of Jimmie Sexton to unleash the kind of funds that 'ole man Paterno' would never in a million years have asked for.....
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28436 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:59 pm to
Can’t find that video, anyone got a link?
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
12924 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:11 pm to
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some fans think he's leveraging for facility improvements. others want him gone


he's not even here and i'm sick of his shite already.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
35071 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:15 pm to
Clay Travis said this morning he actually switched to Sexton this summer. Not sure why it’s just now blowing up
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:17 pm to
Well, it he does come here someone needs to make sure the picture of him on any billboard, publication, etc. does not have his face to black. If they do, he will get pissed again.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74134 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:23 pm to
I’d want him gone as well
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69693 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:33 pm to
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He wouldn’t make it a week in Baton Rouge.


Better fit for USC. The safe spaces out there would do wonders for him.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:34 pm to
Franklin leaves and PSU hires Fickell they come out just fine either way
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
20637 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33772 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 3:47 pm to
Yeah that’s a job I could see fickell taking. That is assuming he misses the playoffs.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34914 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 4:00 pm to
It was planted.

He switched agents over the summer.
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