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re: Official Tigerbaitlawyer Thread
Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:33 am to whitefoot
Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:33 am to whitefoot
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He's a POS because wants what he negotiated? Were there performance clauses that he failed to meet? He's a POS because LSU gave him a ridiculous contact? Get a grip, dude. I mean, hopefully they can work something out, but calling someone a POS for expecting his employer to uphold the contract they signed is absurd
Look man, clearly we’re just different and that’s fine.
But yes, after I delivered literally the second worst defense in the entire country and one of the worst in SEC history, I would, in very good conscience, accept a negotiated buyout below the full agreement. Understanding that the high dollar amount and lack of buyout terms reflect high expectations and confidence in my ability to deliver a high quality product, and I deliver the exact opposite, it doesn’t take a contract lawyer to see that I did not live up to the expectations of the agreement, by any measure, and those that my employer had of my performance.
Just because I can legally take all of the money I didn’t earn, doesn’t mean I would. And I would be grateful that I got paid millions even though I failed to deliver in year one and won’t even be here in years two and three.
It’s not like he’d walk away with nothing and I’m not suggesting he should. He’s still getting paid millions on top of last year’s salary.
Maybe saying he’d be a “POS” is a bit harsh but, after his performance, if he were holding out for 100% of the remaining contract, it would definitely be “shitey.”
Clearly he didn’t hold out for 100%, just because he could, thankfully for the program.
No, it’s not his fault CFB coaching contracts are insane generally and that LSU was too confident in his abilities to deliver. No, it wouldn’t be his “fault” for taking the full buyout. But yes, it would be shitey.
It’s all good. Just a different mindset.
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 9:19 am to tigerbaitlawyer
Dear Tigerbaitlawyer... 
as a senior citizen and business owner let me just say I appreciate your insight and input with regard to the ongoing process.
I for one would neither expect or want you to divulge anything that should be kept behind closed doors and/or would be an inappropriate release of info given your connection.
as a senior citizen and business owner let me just say I appreciate your insight and input with regard to the ongoing process.
I for one would neither expect or want you to divulge anything that should be kept behind closed doors and/or would be an inappropriate release of info given your connection.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 9:37 am to Imember
quote:no you wouldn’t.
But yes, after I delivered literally the second worst defense in the entire country and one of the worst in SEC history, I would, in very good conscience, accept a negotiated buyout below the full agreement.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:11 am to Imember
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But yes, after I delivered literally the second worst defense in the entire country and one of the worst in SEC history, I would, in very good conscience, accept a negotiated buyout below the full agreement
You are assuming he takes full responsibility! Most people in his shoes could justify that he had multiple DL opt out and his starting nickel. Take into account that he didn't have a spring or summer to work hands on installing his defense.... plenty of ways to justify that it was just a bad situation. If you believe it wasn't your fault but you were being punished then 99.9% of the people will take the full guaranteed amount!
There are plenty of situations where coaches and players get the so-called shaft because of bad circumstances, so you saying you would take a reduced amount when you didn't have too is pretty funny unless you have been in that same situation.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:44 am to PennyPacker
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! Most people in his shoes could justify that he had multiple DL opt out and his starting nickel. Take into account that he didn't have a spring or summer to work hands on installing his defense.... plenty of ways to justify that it was just a bad situation. If you believe it wasn't your fault but you were being punished then 99.9% of the people will take the full guaranteed amount!
If not enough time for system to get put in, why did Orgeron start running his mouth saying this years defense was already better than any defense we had last year under Aranda?
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:45 am to Mudminnow
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why did Orgeron start running his mouth saying this years defense was already better than any defense we had last year under Aranda?
Because he didn't like Aranda.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:37 am to RummelTiger
Which is borderline negligence to sort of push aranda out the door and then publicly call him out in the media the way he did
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:39 am to RummelTiger
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Because he didn't like Aranda.
And, he couldn’t tell that the OL was complete dog shite
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:48 am to bstew3006
Boy,if he didnt like aranda,then o is the best actor in the world.
He was always giving credit to aranda in interviews.
Maybe he said it and was mistaken. Maybe he saw in practice that this years defense was creating more turnovers in practice this year then last,which did happen. Maybe the comment was made around the time that our offense was struggling to knock the rust off.
We hand some good individual players on d,we just didnt have players in some key positions
He was always giving credit to aranda in interviews.
Maybe he said it and was mistaken. Maybe he saw in practice that this years defense was creating more turnovers in practice this year then last,which did happen. Maybe the comment was made around the time that our offense was struggling to knock the rust off.
We hand some good individual players on d,we just didnt have players in some key positions
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:53 am to bstew3006
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he couldn’t tell that the OL was complete dog shite
Well, to be fair, they were going against our Offensive line.........
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:22 pm to Imember
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But yes, after I delivered literally the second worst defense in the entire country and one of the worst in SEC history, I would, in very good conscience, accept a negotiated buyout below the full agreement. Understanding that the high dollar amount and lack of buyout terms reflect high expectations and confidence in my ability to deliver a high quality product, and I deliver the exact opposite, it doesn’t take a contract lawyer to see that I did not live up to the expectations of the agreement, by any measure, and those that my employer had of my performance.
There isn't an advisor on this planet that would give him that advice
Posted on 12/30/20 at 2:50 pm to Tigerpride18
I can tell you straight from people that are friends of O. Regardless of what was said in the media O and Aranda did not get along!
Posted on 12/30/20 at 2:55 pm to ArcticTiger
Well. Aranda really really smart. 0 not smart at all. He felt threatened. The end. Pride won but also lost.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 3:03 pm to corym52
Funny how Aranda is considered Smart by the way he Head coaching stint turned out . Just saying....
Posted on 12/30/20 at 3:05 pm to Purple N Gold Blood
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Funny how Aranda is considered Smart by the way he Head coaching stint turned out . Just saying....
He’s been there less than a calendar year my dude
Posted on 12/30/20 at 3:14 pm to wildtigercat93
Yes and people jumping ship . Not bashing Aranda .
Just saying not a great way to say someone is dumb and someone is really really smart ......
Just saying not a great way to say someone is dumb and someone is really really smart ......
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:18 pm to Imember
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Just because I can legally take all of the money I didn’t earn, doesn’t mean I would. And I would be grateful that I got paid millions even though I failed to deliver in year one and won’t even be here in years two and three.
I hope you are not in a position of any responsibility to provide for anyone but yourself. Because that is a horrible way to handle your affairs.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:23 pm to klrstix
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Dear Tigerbaitlawyer...
as a senior citizen and business owner let me just say I appreciate your insight and input with regard to the ongoing process.
I for one would neither expect or want you to divulge anything that should be kept behind closed doors and/or would be an inappropriate release of info given your connection.
I appreciate it. I do not mind informing but I will not lose my job for it.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:24 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
you think South Carolina saves us from the Mason debacle?
Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:32 pm to OneMoreTime
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no you wouldn’t.
I would. In my line of work, I have to actually stand behind what I do. If a project doesn’t work or isn’t delivered per the job scope, then I have to keep at it until it’s right, even if that means going over budget, or even over contract.
I always make a profit because I hire great people and give a shite about quality work, but this is how it works in many professions. I don’t see why coaching should be any different. When you are paid to provide a service and fail, there should be consequences.
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 6:37 pm
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