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re: Mississippi State hires Jeff Lebby as next coach

Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:16 pm to
That’s interesting. I don’t think State has ever used a TE.
Posted by PrescriptionPig
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2013
637 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 1:37 pm to
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The fans didn't complain in the years they were running Brile's offensive system.


Yes we did. He’s a “better” coach in the Briles/Lebby system, but our OL was hot arse the past few seasons. He was out at Arkansas either way.
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4458 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:49 pm to
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That’s interesting. I don’t think State has ever used a TE.


Hardly ever. State has had TEs play in the pros who barely caught passes playing for State.
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11220 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

I think it was because Enos's system wasn't a good fit for Jefferson and everything took to long to develop


took too long to develop? Nothing could develop in the first place because our OL would get demolished.

He won't look as bad because the Briles system masks OL deficiencies, but Kennedy is absolutely not a good coach. The technique from our OL was awful.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65808 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:42 pm to
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Looks like lebby is adding ark ol coach Cody Kennedy. Arkansas o line was garbage this year.



Thank God that dude is gone, probably the worst OL coach we will ever have. Sorry State fans, good luck you will need it.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

our OL was hot arse the past few seasons. He was out at Arkansas either way.

From Arkansas athletics website:

"The 2022 Razorbacks’ offense was one of the best in school history with Kennedy’s offensive line paving the way for 6,128 yards – the second-most in Arkansas history. The Hogs were particularly strong in the run game, averaging 236.7 yards per game and crossing the 3,000-yard mark for just the 10th time in school history."

“Hot arse” my arse.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 7:40 pm to
Same article:

“ Kennedy’s impact on the men up front was immediately noticeable as the Hogs turned into one of the most physical teams in the league and led the SEC in rushing – ranking second in all of FBS – with 227.8 yards per game in 2021. The offensive line helped pave the way for 2,961 yards rushing. The 2021 Razorbacks were an evenly distributed ground force with four different players rushing for over 500 yards, a feat that had not been accomplished at Arkansas since 1975.”

Recency bias is strong.
Posted by PrescriptionPig
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2013
637 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 7:48 pm to
You got me. Our athletics website would never write an article identifying all of the redeeming aspects of one of our own coaches.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:09 pm to
I have a couple questions:

Arky had significant offensive success in Kennedy's first 2 seasons as OL coach. Were y'all complaining about him then?

If it's Kennedy's fault that the OL was trash this season, why did y'all fire Enos but not the OL coach?
Posted by PrescriptionPig
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2013
637 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:21 am to
Yes. We had offensive success in Briles system because it offsets poor line play. Fans have been calling for his head for at least the past 2 seasons.

He wasn’t being retained. Pittman rarely fires assistants, just lets them find other jobs. Kennedy was never going to be publicly fired because by all accounts he’s a good person and Pittman really liked him. On top of that, he fosters kids in Arkansas so that situation had to be figured out.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:58 am to
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Fans have been calling for his head for at least the past 2 seasons.

In conclusion, Arkansas fans are completely irrational. I am glad we were able to get to the bottom of this!
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11220 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:28 am to
If it helps you sleep at night thinking you actually poached him, by all means go for it.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40892 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Were y'all complaining about him then?


Actually, yes. Nearly every single week. That’s why you see damn near universal happiness that he’s gone.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:39 pm to
I’m not claiming we poached him. I’m trying to figure out why y’all think he sucks. And so far the only explanation I’ve gotten is “he sucks.”
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:40 pm to
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Actually, yes. Nearly every single week. That’s why you see damn near universal happiness that he’s gone.

You were complaining about your OL coach when you had one of your best OLs in program history?
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40892 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:52 pm to
It wasn’t one of the best OLs in our history. No one who actually sat there and watched our games would even remotely try to make that argument.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 2:51 pm to
You ran for 3,000 yards!
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40892 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:08 pm to
Again, if you have near unanimous happiness from a fanbase that someone is leaving, it should be a huge red flag to you.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 6:17 pm
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8260 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 6:56 pm to
Lebby got his QB


Pete Thamel
@PeteThamel

Former Baylor quarterback Blake Shapen (@BShapen) has committed to Mississippi State, he tells ESPN. Shapen started 23 games for the Bears over three seasons and has thrown for 5,574 career yards and 36 career touchdowns.

He’ll be immediately eligible and has at least one season of eligibility remaining.


This post was edited on 12/8/23 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68513 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 7:14 pm to
Solid QB to start his tenure. I wonder if they’ll keep going after Gabriel and try to copy what Ole Miss did with Spencer Sanders
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