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re: Mark Helfrich reached out to LSU regarding OC position

Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162839 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:00 pm to
nah I don't think you intentionally lead anyone astray, passed along what you heard. Not sure why people take it so personally. The only thing you could be accused of is getting people's hopes up for the red rider bb gun, only to open up that present to see a pair of socks.....or shrimp boots I guess
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6599 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:04 pm to
So the only year he calls plays they suck dick. Yeah bring him onot down. We all know Chip Kelly called plays then Scott Frost.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79560 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:06 pm to
My initial post was pure sarcasm. I thought you were playing along.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35396 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:11 pm to
If No. 20 in the country sucks dick, then yea he sucked dick.

However, they had a freshman QB and a freshman dominated O-line.

And still managed to suck dick at No. 20.
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
5665 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:11 pm to
They averaged 35 points per game. The problem was on defense. 126 out of 128 in total D. Maybe he's just a better coordinator.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62871 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

They averaged 35 points per game. The problem was on defense. 126 out of 128 in total D. Maybe he's just a better coordinator.



You have to look a little deeper than ppg and rankings when considering the quality of an offense a HUNH scheme. We've seen over and over again how offensive stats can be inflated while defensive stats can be skewed negative as a result.

I'm not saying that he's not a quality coordinator. I really don't know.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
17043 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:18 pm to
I'm intrigued.

We have enough good recruiters on staff, so that doesn't worry me about Helfrich. You would think after several years with Chip he would have to pick up something. Interesting...
Posted by LuzianaFootball
DC
Member since Dec 2008
8107 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Kelly continued to call plays after he was promoted from offensive coordinator to replace Bellotti in 2009, and he nearly led Oregon to the Bowl Championship Series title the next season. But after Kelly left to take over the NFL's Philadelphia Eagles, Mark Helfrich took over at Oregon and deferred the calls to assistant coach Scott Frost.


- LAtimes September 17, 2013



I know it's a couple years old, but it does say a lot about what Helfrich was and wasn't responsible for. I'm not so sure he is the guy we're looking for.

Edited due to busted link.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 5:33 pm
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29683 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:31 pm to
I'm cool with it. Good to have choices.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32937 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

What were they ranked prior to that over the last 8 years?



what were we ranked?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72145 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

he runs on offense so radically different than what we do. I just don't like the fit.


Is this post in jest? Surely to god it is.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91685 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:35 pm to
The biggest misconception is that Oregon's has fallen off, which in reality, that is furthest from the truth. He still ran a Top 20 offense and put up a lot of points. The issue was the defense fell off the face of the Earth when Nick Aliotti retired
This would be a huge get if O can pull this off
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 5:36 pm
Posted by Zchlsu
Twin Peaks, Washington
Member since Jan 2011
7518 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:35 pm to
He seems like a bright guy. Would be awesome listening to him and Aranda talk football together.
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1861 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

Thought he wasn't a recruiter?


Chip Kelly wasn't a Recruiter.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62629 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:41 pm to
I'd much rather have him for a few years than Kiffin for 1.
Posted by CEORanter
Nacogdoches, TX
Member since Oct 2013
281 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:46 pm to
I wouldn't mind having him here and Ensminger can call the plays from his binder. Just as long as the coaches don't get mixed up having too many binders laying around.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3777 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:49 pm to
We should at least consider him for shadow coordinator. Just take about $300K from O's contract.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:50 pm to
Here is my take on Helfrich:

1) He is thorough on the recruiting trail. His recruits see the field and he cut down on the boom vs bust recruits. He also elevated the quality of the walk ons. The bottom half of the roster is better. When talking specifically about the offense, it's deep and the next OC will be like a kid in the candy store. The downside is we don't seem to have that one elite guy to count on.

2) He is a bright football mind. He just can't be the guy to push the team's buttons. He needs to be under a type A personality.

3) I personally believe qb development failures were due to Frost. I think he is great at evaluating qbs and developing them. Some would argue with me though.


All in all, Helfrich sitting in LSU with that much talent within 6 hours driving distance would be fun to watch.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Cargeaux89
Memphis
Member since Oct 2016
1356 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:00 pm to
Very first question SIAP. Don't believe he's the answer
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36972 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Supposedly, Chip called the plays while Helfrich was OC and Scott Frost took over when Chip left


Not supposedly, it's true. Helfrich helped Chip with being eyes in the sKY but Chip called the plays and Frost was the play caller when he was the OC.
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