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re: Make an argument against Kiffin as OC.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:58 am to bamasgot13
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:58 am to bamasgot13
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Probably not, but you would've beaten Wisconsin, AU, and Florida with him this year (that would be reason enough to hire him if I were an LSU fan)
This
I think our fans are forgetting the shite sandwhich our offense has been the past couple of years. I'm not saying we shouldn't go after the best, but they really need to gain some perspective of how awful we've been on the offense side of the ball. We had a damn TE coach break records in a short amount of time
Anyone who melts from transitioning from Miles/Cameron to Kiffin should have their head examined. This may sound like exaggeration but I find it quite challenging we could frick this up given how AWFUL we've been on offense. I think I would be fine with almost any of the same OC's that have been mentioned on this board
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:04 am to GCTiger11
again....no one is questioning whether or not he'd be an improvement for us
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:05 am to Smalls
Will be gone in a year.
We have to start all over 4th OC in 3 years.
We have to start all over 4th OC in 3 years.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:07 am to TigerNAtux
saban was a piece of shite in baton rouge fricking around with candy edwards but you assholes would sell your soul for him, too
relax
relax
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:08 am to SammyTiger
Nobody knows that.
He may love it in BR, have more control and get paid large.
Plus the fact that success is likely to come.
He may love it in BR, have more control and get paid large.
Plus the fact that success is likely to come.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:09 am to Rand AlThor
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So what? That just gives us more bargaining power for the next OC. If O can build a reputation for this program being a stepping stone for "hot" coordinators to get HC jobs, that is a good thing. We can keep fresh blood in here, keep the systems changed up and be unpredictable and fricking dominant.
but that's not what will happen. Bama and his name will be why he gets another HC job. LSU is just gonna show that he can coach without Saban. Not that LSU is some king maker.
Also changing the offense every year hurts your team more than the other one.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:09 am to ellessuuuu
Right
Why go down that route again
Why keep hiring your buddies? Miles did this. Just ready for a new direction but I'll take Kiffin over a number of others if it comes down to it
He's here 1 year and if it's more it's because he was just okay
I just can't see Kiffin getting us over the Bama hump. He struggled to score on LSU, how's he gonna score on Alabama?
Why go down that route again
Why keep hiring your buddies? Miles did this. Just ready for a new direction but I'll take Kiffin over a number of others if it comes down to it
He's here 1 year and if it's more it's because he was just okay
I just can't see Kiffin getting us over the Bama hump. He struggled to score on LSU, how's he gonna score on Alabama?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:10 am to TIGRLEE
It's obvious he wants to be a HC
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:11 am to TIGRLEE
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He may love it in BR, have more control and get paid large.
Not HC money. He is looking at every HC job now. It's clear he wants to be a HC again.
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Plus the fact that success is likely to come.
Oh yeah? He has had no success at Bama and had no success at USC before he left for Oakland. But who likes living in LA anyway.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:11 am to bee Rye
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He abandons the run at the first sign of trouble, he gets too cute with his play calling
This, and he won't have Saban to put him back in check here either. I can imagine some games next year with 40 pass attempts while Guice gets 12 carries for 70 yards, and we're in a dogfight in the 4th quarter.
ETA: I still think he'd be better than anyone we've had recently.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:16 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:14 am to Smalls
Everywhere that he's been successful as an offensive coordinator he's been working with #1 recruiting classes year after year. Not saying he wouldn't have good players at LSU but there's no denying that Saban year after year has the best. Much like USC had back in their successful run.
I also think Kiffin benefits from having Saban jump his arse every now and then. Don't think Saban doesn't sometimes have to get him back in line during games. Much like Pete Carroll probably did at USC.
I'm not too wild about him reuniting with his buddy Orgeron and being given a long leash. Just don't like it.
I also think Kiffin benefits from having Saban jump his arse every now and then. Don't think Saban doesn't sometimes have to get him back in line during games. Much like Pete Carroll probably did at USC.
I'm not too wild about him reuniting with his buddy Orgeron and being given a long leash. Just don't like it.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:16 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:16 am to JustLSUit
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Different time, team/players. That was how many years ago. Let it go!
Same piece of shite coaches.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:25 am to Smalls
IF... IF... He were to come to LSU as OC, that would tell me that He's not happy at an undefeated national contender top program... and willing to make a lateral move... OR Saban has asked him nicely to leave... that would mean ANOTHER program has told him to pack his crap and leave.
So, that concerns me.
So, that concerns me.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:36 am to ccsolee
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He's not enough of a football geek. He's a charismatic, big-picture guy with some OC skills.
Then explain why the best, most dominant CFB coach in recent history brought this charismatic, big picture non-football geek to Bama to modernize his offense.
Kiffin is a solid tactician who could bring life to our abysmal offense.
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And he's out for himself
Please give me a list of coaches who are not out for themselves who are coaching at perennial top 15 programs.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:38 am to GCTiger11
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Alleva and Kiffin are at Louie's right now.
Alleva and Kiffin are at Louie's right now.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:39 am to Rand AlThor
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So what? That just gives us more bargaining power for the next OC. If O can build a reputation for this program being a stepping stone for "hot" coordinators to get HC jobs, that is a good thing. We can keep fresh blood in here, keep the systems changed up and be unpredictable and fricking dominant.
have you ever played football?
have you ever learned 3 systems in 3 years?
no thanks. gtfoh
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:40 am to Smalls
He's Lane Kiffin
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:51 am to Rand AlThor
This
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could not be more polar opposites if you know anything about football.
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We can keep fresh blood in here, keep the systems changed up
and
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be unpredictable and fricking dominant
could not be more polar opposites if you know anything about football.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:53 am to BayouBengals03
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Alleva and Kiffin are at Louie's right now.
Kiffin order the cheesy Lou?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:58 am to Smalls
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I don't really see a downside.
Ok...I'm just spitballing here...but how about this:
Who do you have to beat to get back on top?
Who has the advantage...Saban seeing Kiffin and his tendencies up close and personal every day for the last three years, or vice versa?
This would seem to indicate advantage Saban.
"Coach Kiffin, he gets real competitive so he tries to scheme us a little bit, but feel like we do a good job," Allen said. "As a defense you try to get Coach Saban mad at him and try to get him yelled at in practice."
How often are the Alabama defenders successful in getting Kiffin yelled at?
"Oh all the time," Allen said with a smile. "All the time and we love it. I'm sure you guys have seen those on the TV, that's exactly how it is in practice.""
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 11:01 am
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