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Lane Kiffen question

Posted on 11/13/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Lptigerfan
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 3:53 pm
I keep seeing his name on these boards with the explanation of how he would have u limited resources. Didn't he basically have unlimited resources when he was at USC ??
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 3:55 pm to
I think the common belief is that he has grown a ton as a coach and person since then. Worked under Saban for a while, learned how to run a program, and has now done well at Ole Miss.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 3:55 pm to
They were under *ahem* draconian sanctions
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 3:58 pm to
Lane took over the program from Pete Carroll, had Barkley at QB, EdO doing the crootin, and still somehow ran the program into the ground.
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

Didn't he basically have unlimited resources when he was at USC ??

The NCAA had just hammered them when he took over. They weren't eligible for the conference title or postseason his first two seasons, and they seemed to really feel the scholarship reductions after that.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:02 pm to
It’s Kiffin with an I, good sir.
Posted by New Money
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:05 pm to
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The NCAA had just hammered them when he took over. They weren't eligible for the conference title or postseason his first two seasons, and they seemed to really feel the scholarship reductions after that.


Yeah, but he left UT and ran full speed to that situation. It wasn't like he was blindsided after he got there.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:07 pm to
If your question is "How to spell Kiffin" then I can help.
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:24 pm to
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Yeah, but he left UT and ran full speed to that situation. It wasn't like he was blindsided after he got there.

The penalties came down after he was already at USC, and were far harsher than anticipated. He likely expected to get a longer leash from Pat Haden because of it.

But Kiffin had a really good 2nd season, and they were stupidly ranked #1 in the AP Poll heading into 2012, so he was held to the championship standards of the Carroll era instead of the reality at hand. I remember one of the preview magazines that year specifically pointed out the talent dropoff behind the starting 22.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 4:29 pm
Posted by TouchdownTony
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Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:48 pm to
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Didn't he basically have unlimited resources when he was at USC ??


Yes. But the NCAA had laid Bama style sanctions down on them. Which made me question his decision making at that point. No coach worth a shite takes over a program with those sanctions.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:04 pm to
USC is his white whale. Sanctions or no sanctions I’d leave wherever for LSU and think I could fix it, just like I’m sure you would with Bama.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:21 pm to
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The penalties came down after he was already at USC,

And those penalties had not had a major impact on the talent already on Lane’s USC teams. He was loaded with talent, Heisman caliber QB, preseason No1, and lost to every team with a pulse his entire career at USC.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17733 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:28 pm to
From what I understand had he been given one more year at USC he would have made something. The coach who took over had the horses to win. (But that is just me and my cloudy memory).
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16869 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:40 pm to
I was on the lane train for a few years but He threw his entire team under the bus after recent loss

Gave them no incentive to win the remainder of the games.

He’s a negative a-hole narcissist.

Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12196 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:57 pm to
After Californy there was Joey Freshwater, followed by Joey Saltwater in Florida.
I'm not sure which Joey fits in Oxford, but for A&M Joey Brackishwaster might do.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

They were under *ahem* draconian sanctions

Posted by nvasil1
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:10 pm to
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lost to every team with a pulse his entire career at USC.

Oregon definitely had a pulse in 2011.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
4443 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

The penalties came down after he was already at USC, and were far harsher than anticipated. He likely expected to get a longer leash from Pat Haden because of it.

But Kiffin had a really good 2nd season, and they were stupidly ranked #1 in the AP Poll heading into 2012, so he was held to the championship standards of the Carroll era instead of the reality at hand. I remember one of the preview magazines that year specifically pointed out the talent dropoff behind the starting 22.



They had to know the penalties were coming.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:06 pm to
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Lane Kiffen question


Just to help you out a bit so that you get better responses:

1) Your thread title is terrible

2) Just in general, don’t make the title a question to see if you can ask a different question. We don’t need that middle man. Just say, “why are people championing Kiffin with unlimited resources at A&M when he had them at USC and wasn’t successful.”

3) If you’re going to make your subject a question on if you can ask a question—and you shouldn’t—at least make the next question intriguing.

4) These type of nondescript titles are frowned upon by the admins, because people have to click your link blindly, mostly to be disappointed.

Not hating, just imparting knowledge if you’re looking to get better and more responses:

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