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re: Kiffin contract rumor spreaders-claiming the market is being reset by OM, LSU, UF
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Different style than Kelly
And let’s be honest, Kelly’s failure appears to be more about him not being able to adjust to this era of CFB and checking out. I don’t think that’s a risk with lane
And let’s be honest, Kelly’s failure appears to be more about him not being able to adjust to this era of CFB and checking out. I don’t think that’s a risk with lane
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:10 am to BilJ
I was just talking in terms of ceilings, not how they got there. Kiffin had some head scratchers pretty much every year. And its not that specifically as much as the cost. If he's not top-3 coach getting us into the title hunt most years, and we're more of a "sneaking into the playoffs every 2-3 years" program under him, then we're low key fricked.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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but his ceiling is capped until he can prove that he can win the big one and avoid mind-numbing losses along the way.
Who doesnt have this other than Saban?
Day had this his entire tenure and only won his natty because the playoffs expanded, lost to an abysmal michigan team last year
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
I’ve said that I don’t want him at Florida. Mostly because I believe that if he will leave OM while he has them in good shape for OM then the NFL is next after UF IMO.
And he does have some headscratchers.
Even with all the UF injuries and turmoil, he should have to list to UF but for our bad QB play.
And he does have some headscratchers.
Even with all the UF injuries and turmoil, he should have to list to UF but for our bad QB play.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:16 am to Cosmo
I wouldn't pay Ryan Day $15M/year without the NIL infrastructure and history OSU has, either.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I think he has kind of proved that this year. If he avoids a loss to Mississippi State then we will have gone 11-1 in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year and earned a home playoff game.
but his ceiling is capped until he can prove that he can win the big one and avoid mind-numbing losses along the way. It sounds a lot like Kelly.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 8:16 am
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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If Kiffin repeats that here, then we're kind of fricked because this contract won't be one that we can get out of in 4-5 years. I think Kiffin has a high floor (I was a big supporter of hiring him last go around) but his ceiling is capped until he can prove that he can win the big one and avoid mind-numbing losses along the way. It sounds a lot like Kelly.
Agree 100% with all of this except Kelly. Lane doesn’t appear to be lazy & does interact with his players.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:19 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:it actually isn't. Supply and demand.
Just sit back and think about how absurd that is.
Those coaches will get more when they get extended.
You can draw some parallels to the nfl QB market (though this one is a lot more liquid). The best contract is usually the last one, not the best QB.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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I wouldn't pay Ryan Day $15M/year without the NIL infrastructure and history OSU has, either.
Problem is that its like QB salaries in NFL
The market will just keep getting reset every year. Jordan Love sure as frick shouldnt be the highest paid QB but they paid him that way and next year some guy will make more
If LSU pays kiffin 15 then other schools will be paying somebody 15-20 soon as long as boosters with 9-10 figure wealth are involved
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:20 am to Covingtontiger77
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All rumors claiming to be paying a guy that has no skins on the wall $4m plus higher than those coaches that won NC.
Just sit back and think about how absurd that is.
Almost absurd as paying Brian Kelly $10 million
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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I like Fisch.
I'm not one of the Drink haters, but he and Kiffin are like mirrors of each other.
But I'd roll the dice on the UNT guy just because he could bring his QB with him.
i like fisch too but i fricking hate Drink. if we wanted a douche that loses every big game, could have just kept BK or could just hire you for a million a year and be done with it
Dillingham is my favorite besides kiff and freeman. I think he will be a superstar
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:30 am to Cosmo
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The market will just keep getting reset every year
But we are resetting it for the guy who hasn't won a title. They'd be resetting it for a guy who has.
There's going to be a point where we can't afford the buyout and I think most people agree but we will have to pay. Kiffin is going to be in that range. It just creates a very narrow level of wiggle room and if we choose wrong then we're stuck for a long time.
Day, for all of this faults, made multiple playoffs and won a title. He's going to make the playoffs again this year and is the favorite to win again. And I still wouldn't pay him that much without the total infrastructure that Ohio State provides him, which we will not be able to provide our coach.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:33 am to lsu777
Drink and Kiffin are a lot alike. Drink is just in a less advantageous position and lacks the media history and social media presence/marketplace of Kiffin. The problem with both is going to be how much money and how many years they would demand. I don't worry about either of them checking out or not putting in the work like we saw with Kelly. I don't worry about either of them not sharpening the spear so to speak in terms of strategy and innovation either which Kelly clearly had no interest in doing
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:40 am to volinktown
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Imagine LSU's NC contender team lost to 1-7(SEC) Kentucky at home and was left out of CFP.
With the only good defense of Lane's career (top 2 defense I believe) and a senior Jaxson Dart.
One of the worst losses in Ole Miss history, considering the impact and opportunity lost. They had a chance last year to win it all with that defense and experienced QB.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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his ceiling is capped until he can prove that he can win the big one and avoid mind-numbing losses along the way.
Guess it's capped on a lot of coaches then. Only three currently coaching that have done this so good luck.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:45 am to Covingtontiger77
Banana bana fo fana fee fi fo ana. Banana
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:46 am to Covingtontiger77
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All rumors claiming to be paying a guy that has no skins on the wall $4m plus higher than those coaches that won NC.
Do you think LSU or Florida can get anyone with a skin on the wall?
How much do you think they would cost?
How do you circumvent market forces in a time when top quality coaches are in high demand (lots of very good to premier coaching openings 4 in the SEC).
If you are told Kiffin has to be your top priority, how much would you be willing to pay for him before you moved on to secondary targets?
Which coach do you want, and how much would you be willing to pay?
A few of the top coaching salaries now
Kirby Smart, Georgia ($13 million)
Ryan Day, Ohio State ($12.5 million)
Curt Cignetti, Indiana ($11.6 million)
Lincoln Riley, USC ($11.5 million)
Dabo Swinney, Clemson ($11.2 million)
Steve Sarkisian, Texas ($10.8 million)
Dan Lanning, Oregon ($10.4 million)
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
in Lane's defense, I think he definitely has done a better job of modernizing to the current landscape than fellow Norm Chow disciple Sark, so we know he's not married to one particular style.
Does drink even have one elite offense on his resume?
Does drink even have one elite offense on his resume?
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 8:50 am
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:51 am to Covingtontiger77
Saban is retired. Sexton is using Kiffin to go next level.
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:51 am to BilJ
J, my issue with Drinkwitz is just that he’s a frickin weirdo. I don’t have many tangible issues besides that.
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