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Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:27 pm to Books
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and adding a great OC would have built it even more, more so than this recruiting class
Books, do you really think putting in new terminology, new play book etc wouldn't cause a brief step back?
I know that a big name would have gotten us a WOW but would it = win now?
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:28 pm to Jaydeaux
quote:then they shoulda kept Crowton if that's the case. Terrible reasoning. Did you forget ab '07?
do you really think putting in new terminology, new play book etc wouldn't cause a brief step back?
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:29 pm to Skillet
quote:this is the logic that's frustrating, why settle for just decent? just bc LSU was horrendous last two yrs doesn't mean anything better is a good hire. talk ab low expectations
would've been awesome to have a decent offense at lsu the last couple of seasons.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:31 pm to Uranus Jones
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Not a sac fly unless the runner scores
I didn't make a mistake when I wrote my analogy.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:32 pm to Books
quote:who else out there do we have a legit shot at that is the most outstanding hire for an OC?
this is the logic that's frustrating, why settle for just decent? just bc LSU was horrendous last two yrs doesn't mean anything better is a good hire. talk ab low expectations
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:33 pm to Books
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so he's apparently not much of a recruiter if he had so little talent at a&m or didn't develop many of those guys into NFL caliber players. A&M wasn't terrible back then either
he was only 3 there years. He didnt even cycle through a recruiting class.
his offenses weren't bad at A&M considering the talent.
That was a decade ago though. It's really not even relevant.
check out some of the guys he had on those offenses. No one really stands out except Dante Hall.
A&M stats by years
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The talent situation goes both ways regarding his stint at Tulsa
and the numbers I see reflect pretty damn good offenses.
I can find negatives about any candidates.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:34 pm to Acreboy
I'm not sure, Fuente for damn sure. Several NFL guys would likely have been interested. Monken. You really think LSU was scraping the bottom for potential OCs? Detillier said as much. Kragthorpe coudn't even get an interview at Tulsa and is out of coaching
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:36 pm to Lester Earl
quote:they were a top 25 team. TX has more talent in-state than anyone. who did he develop?
his offenses weren't bad at A&M considering the talent.
He had some decent offenses at Tulsa that got significantly better after he left
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:36 pm to Books
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then they shoulda kept Crowton if that's the case. Terrible reasoning. Did you forget ab '07?
I agree with you except for one thing. I don't think GC was getting it done coaching the qbs. Meaning Les is going to set the offensive tone but I think we haven't gotten qb development is all.
I'm not exonerating Les just that maybe he gave GC one year too many to coach up JJ and JL
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:38 pm to Acreboy
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who else out there do we have a legit shot at that is the most outstanding hire for an OC?
it doesn't matter who or when you hire someone. all big name coaches were a no name at some point.
there will be people that call krag a re-tread, yet people admire al borges. a re-tread.
all coaches have up and down years because it's based on the talent they have to run their style. if you have a really good qb and a strong o-line, you're going to have success. if you don't, you wont.
this is why it is important to find a guy that can recruit to his style.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:38 pm to Books
quote:34 y/o co-offensive coordinator. i'm curious what his stats will be in a BCS conference (even if it is the big east) next year w/ a new QB; pretty sure they lose a ton more on offense too.
Fuente for damn sure
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:40 pm to Books
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Better than Krags at Tulsa
he has alot more talent at TCU to work with as well.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:41 pm to Prominentwon
he does, he helped develop a lot of it
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:46 pm to Books
I'm just hoping Books is as wrong about this hire as he was about Chavis.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:49 pm to moneyg
I am too, Chavis' resume before LSU had a hell of a lot more elite units mixed in w/ the avg than Krag's
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:54 pm to Books
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they were a top 25 team. TX has more talent in-state than anyone. who did he develop?
who do you think he should have developed on those teams?
agian, i think the final numbers are pretty good considering the average talent
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:57 pm to Lester Earl
I don't remember much from those teams a decade ago, but I do not buy that he was short on talent being at a top 25 team right in the heart of a shite load of talent.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:00 pm to Books
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I don't remember much from those teams a decade ago
exactly
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but I do not buy that he was short on talent being at a top 25 team right in the heart of a shite load of talent.
i posted the year by year stats. Go back and look at them. The offensive talent was underwhelming to say the least. He had Dante Hall for 1 year, and Robert Ferguson/Bethel Johnson at WR, both who played in NFL. His RB's were nobodies, as were the QBs. Dont keep saying "the talent should have been good". Go look, it wasnt
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