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re: It's about to get REAL ugly in Austin.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 6:23 pm to hashtag
Posted on 10/24/16 at 6:23 pm to hashtag
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I can't see many big name coaches lining up to take over this dumpster fire.
UT with its endowment and football legacy is a destination job in the college football world it is truly that simple. There are probably 5 of those such "destination" jobs in college football. Coaching at that high a level is an "Alpha Male" job and I don't think you will see many of those coaches back away from a challenge, I don't think any of them will say "well Strong couldn't do it, so I might not be successful there." The fact is if you are successful at UT, Bama, USC, Ohio St, Michigan you can write your own check.
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 7:08 pm to 1999
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few more losses for herman and things will get REAL interesting.
Get ready for them to get REAL interesting. He still has to play Louisville. Could also see them losing to Memphis in Memphis as it is the last game of the season. Not that it would matter by that point, though. He'll already have a new contract at another school by then.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 7:42 pm to cardboardboxer
quote:Yes, of course he would. They don't need to pass the ball to be effective.
Honestly a guy like Les would kill there.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:10 am to Dudebro2
quote:Yet they hired Charlie Strong. Look, I'm not comparing the job to any where else. I'm just stating that the state of Texas' athletic program is in turmoil.
UT with its endowment and football legacy is a destination job in the college football world it is truly that simple. There are probably 5 of those such "destination" jobs in college football. Coaching at that high a level is an "Alpha Male" job and I don't think you will see many of those coaches back away from a challenge, I don't think any of them will say "well Strong couldn't do it, so I might not be successful there." The fact is if you are successful at UT, Bama, USC, Ohio St, Michigan you can write your own check.
In the last 3 years, they've fired all 3 of their major men's sports teams coaches. Those 3 coaches had been at Texas for 16 seasons (Brown), 17 seasons (Barnes) and 20 seasons (Garrido). The only one fired after having a losing season was Garrido, who had his first losing season since 1998.
And now, before Charlie Strong had even began his 3rd year, people were already clamoring for him to be fired. It might be right call. But, the athletic program doesn't look so hot when you fire 3 legends in coaching within 3 years and then have to fire one of the guys you hired 2.5 years later. It screams instability and that the people in charge have a quick trigger finger.
IMO, Texas has significantly damaged their brand recently. And if the best they could do 2.5 years ago was Charlie Strong, why are people expecting them to land anyone good this year?
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:51 am to hashtag
UT needs a national perspective recruiting wise...the 2 and 3 star talent level at UH is starting to rear its ugly head...UT cant rely on a coach that's only comfortable recruiting in state...too many succesful instate and out of state programs dipping into the talent pool.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:05 am to OchoDedos
Let the Larry Fedora era in Austin begin!
Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:31 am to 1999
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a few more losses for herman and things will get REAL interesting.
his players have quit because they know he is gone at seasons end..
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:35 am to Dudebro2
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UT with its endowment and football legacy is a destination job in the college football world it is truly that simple. There are probably 5 of those such "destination" jobs in college football. Coaching at that high a level is an "Alpha Male" job and I don't think you will see many of those coaches back away from a challenge
Except that some coaches really do have THE job they always wanted, and Chris Petersen has that job at Washington. He called THEM. They won a natty in the '90s and may well have the chance to play for one again this year, so it's not like he has a ceiling there that he'll grow frustrated with. That dude is absolutely not leaving. He's coaching where he always wanted to be AND having success.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:48 am to Cooter Davenport
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That dude is absolutely not leaving. He's coaching where he always wanted to be
Says who? Where can you find an article that has quoted Peterson that UW is exactly where he has always wanted to be?
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:19 pm to cardboardboxer
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Honestly a guy like Les would kill there.
The only killing there would be diehard UT fans killing themselves after a few games of a Clown playing "head coach."
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:21 pm to cypressbrake3
do people realize that endowment size has jack shite to do with football? they can't tap into that money to spend on football
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:40 pm to heartbreakTiger
No but they do have ppl with $$ just like LSU backing the team.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:54 pm to Dudebro2
quote:disagree 100 percent. Texas should be the best job in the country by a wide margin, but all the behind-the-scenes drama and politics have held them back for decades, because the boosters think theyre all "alpha males" too, its a dozen jerry jones' in one room. imagine dealing with that shite.
UT with its endowment and football legacy is a destination job in the college football world it is truly that simple. There are probably 5 of those such "destination" jobs in college football. Coaching at that high a level is an "Alpha Male" job and I don't think you will see many of those coaches back away from a challenge, I don't think any of them will say "well Strong couldn't do it, so I might not be successful there." The fact is if you are successful at UT, Bama, USC, Ohio St, Michigan you can write your own check.
none of this is gonna change anytime soon. its why Herbstriet called the job a "cesspool" last week.
its similar to notre dame in that all the non-football stuff make the job way more trouble than its worth. thats why Urban passed on them, his admitted "dream job", for florida.
texas better hope Herman doesnt ask Urban for his advice.
seriously, for all their talk, what exactly has Texas done in the past 4 decades to earn their status? they have 1 title, and it took a generational QB putting them on his back to even get that.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:13 pm to MastrShake
Texas just doesn't have the talent. They have only had 7 players drafted in the last 3 NFL drafts with only 1 1st rd pick. They only have 5 OOS kids on their roster now (one being our former kicker). Of the top 20 kids in state currently TX only has commitments from 2. SO not only are they not going out and getting OOS kids they aren't even getting the best of what's in state.
LSU has one less commitment (4) from the top 50 in the state of TX right now than their flagship university.
LSU has one less commitment (4) from the top 50 in the state of TX right now than their flagship university.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:44 pm to Dudebro2
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UT with its endowment and football legacy is a destination job in the college football world it is truly that simple. There are probably 5 of those such "destination" jobs in college football. Coaching at that high a level is an "Alpha Male" job and I don't think you will see many of those coaches back away from a challenge, I don't think any of them will say "well Strong couldn't do it, so I might not be successful there." The fact is if you are successful at UT, Bama, USC, Ohio St, Michigan you can write your own check.
I think Texas is potentially the best Job in America. With that said, they hardly ever hire a top tier coach. Johnny Mac, Brown, Strong, etc. were solid hires on paper, not home run hires. If they Hire Herman, that is more along the lines of what they have done in the past. If they get Peterson, that certainty the closest thing to a home run hire you can make and different than what they were able to do in the past.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:55 pm to dbuchanon
well yea and they have even more of them. They have billionaires and millionaires in spades. Still anyone bringing up an endowment is a retard. Its not like they can use that to lure a coach in.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:25 pm to heartbreakTiger
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Still anyone bringing up an endowment is a retard.
Hey DUMBASS I never said they use it to hire coaches. One of the uses of the endowment is to improve facilities on the campus. Which means the UT can and will have the most state of the art facilities for their football team. if you don't think that is on the minds of both coaches and high school players than conversing with you is pointless!!!
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:36 pm to bret75
Texas D has been terrible all year. They haven't stopped anybody with a pulse this year. If not for that miracle win against ND early, Strong would be gone already.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 6:56 pm to bret75
Dabo
Posted on 10/25/16 at 7:02 pm to lsufan1971
quote:Some predicted this and worse due to a confluence of factors, not least of which one of them being TAMU joining the SEC. Especially since it was at the low point of Mack Brown driven arrogance in recruiting and the beginning of the turmoil, at least behind the scenes.
Texas just doesn't have the talent. They have only had 7 players drafted in the last 3 NFL drafts with only 1 1st rd pick. They only have 5 OOS kids on their roster now (one being our former kicker). Of the top 20 kids in state currently TX only has commitments from 2. SO not only are they not going out and getting OOS kids they aren't even getting the best of what's in state.
LSU has one less commitment (4) from the top 50 in the state of TX right now than their flagship university.
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