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re: If Matt Campbell and Napier were the final 2 candidates standing, which would you pick?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:01 am to TigerProphet
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:01 am to TigerProphet
Didn’t Napier beat Campbell with lesser talent? Give me him.
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:07 am to dos crystal
Yep, and then lost to Coastal Carolina.
So Chadwell over Napier, right?
Napier isn’t in the same tier as Campbell and anyone that says otherwise doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
So Chadwell over Napier, right?
Napier isn’t in the same tier as Campbell and anyone that says otherwise doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:19 am to TigerProphet
I like both, but Campbell is more qualified at this point.
-Has been a HC at 2 different programs with success
-P5 coaching experience
-Built Iowa St from the ground up
-Punches above his weight class (able to beat teams with significantly better talent)
-3x Big XII coach of the year
-MAC COTY
Campbell is one of the most respected coaches in CFB. He also doesn't job hop. If LSU hired him and he had success he would likely stay for a long time.
I've been a fan of Campbell's for a while. I think it would take a lot to get him to leave because he's a family/community type guy and he's already getting 4mil/yr.
Honestly if he wants the job and I'm Scott I make it happen and don't wait on anyone else. I think hiring Campbell is playing the long game. You may not get instant success, but you will build a program that gets you sustained success.
-Has been a HC at 2 different programs with success
-P5 coaching experience
-Built Iowa St from the ground up
-Punches above his weight class (able to beat teams with significantly better talent)
-3x Big XII coach of the year
-MAC COTY
Campbell is one of the most respected coaches in CFB. He also doesn't job hop. If LSU hired him and he had success he would likely stay for a long time.
I've been a fan of Campbell's for a while. I think it would take a lot to get him to leave because he's a family/community type guy and he's already getting 4mil/yr.
Honestly if he wants the job and I'm Scott I make it happen and don't wait on anyone else. I think hiring Campbell is playing the long game. You may not get instant success, but you will build a program that gets you sustained success.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 7:26 am
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:25 am to Tiger Voodoo
Chadwell beat Napier twice! But he’s not one of us so the Napier fans wouldn’t pick him, even though he has clearly been better than Napier and beat Napier the same year UL beat Campbell.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:34 am to BayouCowboy
coaching wise....campbell is prolyl better, atleast from a on the field perspective. Campbell is better with in game decisions imo and they are about even on X&O but i think Campbell has a lot more skins on the wall when it comes to offense, honestly thats not even really debatebale. Campbell has had a better offense against better comp. Anyone that says otherwise is dumb as frick.
from a recruiting standpoint, Napier is better by a mile and anyone that says otherwise is dumb as frick.
from an overall program running is close. I think Napier has a clear vision of what it should look like (think bama) but Campbell has done it at a much higher class of comp.
I personally like both, but feel Napier prolly is better fit here. overall both are great coaches and very very well respected in the industry.
from a recruiting standpoint, Napier is better by a mile and anyone that says otherwise is dumb as frick.
from an overall program running is close. I think Napier has a clear vision of what it should look like (think bama) but Campbell has done it at a much higher class of comp.
I personally like both, but feel Napier prolly is better fit here. overall both are great coaches and very very well respected in the industry.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:50 am to lsu777
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from a recruiting standpoint, Napier is better by a mile and anyone that says otherwise is dumb as frick.
from an overall program running is close. I think Napier has a clear vision of what it should look like (think bama) but Campbell has done it at a much higher class of comp.
I personally like both, but feel Napier prolly is better fit here. overall both are great coaches and very very well respected in the industry.
Napier's advantage is that he's been a part of SEC programs and recruited here. That would probably get him off to a faster start.
That being said, I think Campbell won't have any issues recruiting once he gets here. It just may take a little more time. Campbell's better at in game coaching as you stated which puts him over the top for me.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:51 am to TigerProphet
put me down for Campier
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:36 am to TigerProphet
Depends on how long you would be willing to give either of them.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:33 am to BayouCowboy
I don't see why anyone worries about recruiting at LSU in these discussions.
Talent will always come here. Y'all remember, that's why Saban came. Gerry Dinardo kicked his teeth in head-to-head, despite Saban being the better coach.
I don't know which guy has the better program skills, but that's the one I want, not the recruiter.
Talent will always come here. Y'all remember, that's why Saban came. Gerry Dinardo kicked his teeth in head-to-head, despite Saban being the better coach.
I don't know which guy has the better program skills, but that's the one I want, not the recruiter.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:34 am to TigerProphet
Campbell without a second thought
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:37 am to TigerProphet
Matt Campbell
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:13 am to ibleedprplngld
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I’ll never understand this board’s obsession with Campbell
As I will never understand this board‘s obsession with Napier.
Campbell started at Toledo where he had wins over him a big 12 team and a SEC team. Not long ago he beat a Texas team by three touchdowns who had beaten a Cajun team by three touchdowns earlier in the season.
I would rather not be forced to take either one of them, but the idea one of them is prime rib and the other one is ground meat has no basis in fact as we know it now
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:23 am to jrodLSUke
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Chadwell beat Napier twice! But he’s not one of us so the Napier fans wouldn’t pick him
Napier isn’t one of us either dumbarse. Stop pushing that narrative. He’s was born in Tennessee, grew up in Georgia and before UL, has never had any ties to the state of Louisiana.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:26 am to TigerProphet
If they only played head to head so we could know who was a better coach..... If only...
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:04 pm to ShermanTxTiger
quote:head-to-head means nothing. Dinardo (with LSU) blew the doors off Saban with Michigan State.
If they only played head to head so we could know who was a better coach..... If only...
It's a little concerning that Iowa State would lose to ULL, but we ARE still talking about Iowa State. It's not like they have the players to just out-talent anyone, even a Sun Belt team.
I sorta view that game like a P5 basketball team losing an early contest to a good mid-major, it shows they had a lot to work on and get focused. They seem to have done that.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 2:06 pm to NoGeaux
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Campbell and it’s not close.
There is a huge difference between a low low level G5 and the B12.
Low level G5? He's had Louisiana ranked in the top 25 two years in a row. And beat Matt Cambell straight up last year head to head. Geezus man.....this board sometimes
Posted on 11/8/21 at 2:15 pm to Ocardowin
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Campbell and anyone who says otherwise needs a serious evaluation
Because that 41-31 record at Iowa St is rock solid.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 2:40 pm to JRC73
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Low level G5
The Sunbelt has historically been a lower level G5 conference. They've been getting significantly more competitive in recent years, though.
Most still consider C-USA, the MAC and the Big West to be major G5 conferences
Posted on 11/8/21 at 2:51 pm to JRC73
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He's had Louisiana ranked in the top 25 two years in a row. And beat Matt Cambell straight up last year head to head. Geezus man....
Then you must be over the moon for Chadwell. He’s ranked higher than UL and beat Napier the same season Napier beat Campbell.
Chadwell > Napier. Right?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 3:53 pm to ibleedprplngld
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But seriously, everything you and some others are pointing to is the exact same thing Napier has done at ULL.
Right ‘cause sunbelt equals big 12.
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