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re: I would like to address those who actually believe Jimbo is "Les 2.0"

Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by DBU
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:39 pm to
It's silly, actually watch a FSU game people. They come out in wide open sets all the time. Fisher's offense would be fine here.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:39 pm to
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They run a pro style offense with spread concepts added in


I'm salivating already. fact is, all the best teams run this style of offense.

Best = Teams winning championships
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 3:41 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:40 pm to
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He's only 51.


Thats my main reason(kinda) for wanting him over Herman.

If Herman comes here and succeeds, he could be gone within 5 years. The guy is young and the NFL might be his ultimate goal.

If Jimbo comes, he could be here for a long time. I dont see him jumping ship again. Long term, I think Jimbo is the better hire
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:40 pm to
Just fixed it bud but thanks
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:41 pm to
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It's silly, actually watch a FSU game people. They come out in wide open sets all the time. Fisher's offense would be fine here.



it's similar to Hugh Freeze's offense, except he develops QBs better
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:42 pm to
I agree with you there. I understand some folks line of thinking that if Herman leaves for the NFL, it means we won a natty. Although I don't believe that to be 100% the case, I get the idea.

I like the thought of having our next coach for the next 10-15 years.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:42 pm to
And runs the ball better.


The only concern I have is how bad his OL has looked this year. Francois has taken an absolute beating this year.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:42 pm to
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I dont see him jumping ship again. Long term, I think Jimbo is the better hire




agreed. would be here until 65 for sure. that's 14 quality years.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9309 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:42 pm to
Les never had a "good" QB lol
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41283 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:43 pm to
This is a down year for FSU and they still could win 10 games.

The ones that want him gone are fricking spoiled.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 3:44 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:44 pm to
It's also funny watching people scratch their heads as to why he's ostensibly our top target.

- won a natty*

- proven developer of quarterbacks

- established coach at a top program (that was slipping before hevtook over...familiar?)

- his offenses don't suck as he maximizes talent

- ties to LSU/Louisiana

-Saban coaching tree (and lets be honest, it's not like we're talking about derek dooley or even boom here)

*- ZOMG HE ONLY WON BC JAMEIS
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71998 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:44 pm to
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also didn't have to play the SEC coaches in the ACC


ACC has some very good coaches. Dabo, Fisher, Fedora, Richt (I know this is new), Fuentes (also new)

ACC improved, actually, right around the time Jimbo went to FSU.

Maybe that's coincidence. But it is much better and arguably currently in a better state than the SEC.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71998 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:44 pm to
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Les never had a "good" QB lol



Flynn was good and Mett was pretty good

but again, this. is. the. point.

eta Perilloux was going to be the man as well.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:45 pm to
I just want Aranda to stay. As long as Jimbo can keep Aranda here, that would be fantastic.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71998 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:46 pm to
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It's also funny watching people scratch their heads as to why he's ostensibly our top target.

- won a natty*

- proven developer of quarterbacks

- established coach at a top program (that was slipping before hevtook over...familiar?)

- his offenses don't suck as he maximizes talent

- ties to LSU/Louisiana

-Saban coaching tree (and lets be honest, it's not like we're talking about derek dooley or even boom here)

*- ZOMG HE ONLY WON BC JAMEIS


I guess their last and final argument is that he won't beat Saban? Well if he can't, literally it aint happenin'. Maybe Herman, but let's not pretend as though beating Stoops and Petrino is the same as taking down Bama on the road in early November.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50933 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:46 pm to
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Flynn was good and Mett was pretty good

but again, this. is. the. point.



Exactly
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71998 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:46 pm to
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I just want Aranda to stay. As long as Jimbo can keep Aranda here, that would be fantastic.



instant playoff contender, period.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:47 pm to
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Well, I mean....1 national title in 7 years with similar talent, and a much easier road to get there. Les was playing for his 2nd title in 7 years. Yeah, yeah. I know. Saban left us stacked. First, that's not altogether true. Second, jimbo was at fsu for a few years before becoming head coach as the coach in waiting, so by the time he took over, it should have been loaded and ready to go.


Recruiting skyrocketed for FSU as soon as Jimbo took over. The OC does not have the same impact on recruiting as the HC.

Much like a certain DLine coach.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71998 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:47 pm to
I need 3 upvotes...help a brotha out if you haven't already

eta
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17573 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:48 pm to
shite.

I was in the "they are the same" camp. But that's an eye opening post.

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