re: I guess Richt is off the hot seat?

I dont think its a question between mediocre or legend..Richt is a good coach and I dont think he is on the hot seat win or lose saturday..I do however think that at some point his team needs to play big in the spotlight and seize the chance..That is the only thing Richt does not have on his resume..

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I dont think its a question between mediocre or legend..Richt is a good coach and I dont think he is on the hot seat win or lose saturday..I do however think that at some point his team needs to play big in the spotlight and seize the chance..That is the only thing Richt does not have on his resume

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and, again, neither does Les Miles. His team failed against Arkansas in 2007 when all they had to do is win against a 7-4 team to stay #1. Failed to do so. And, this was after already losing to an inferior Kentucky team that finished the year 8-5.

So, Les Miles is considered better than Richt when he loses to 2 8-5 teams, but backdoors his way into a NC.

This is why looking only at championships is a horrible measure of a great coach. Les Miles and Mark Richt have both proven to be great coaches.

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We are the only one of the traditional SEC powers not to get one in the last 15 years

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LSU went 50 without getting one. get over it. plus, you are sitting pretty. Playing against a Bama team that is vulnerable for a chance for the NC. You are playing in the SECCG for the 2nd year in a row. Stop crying.

You know what happens when you get greedy like this? then, you don't care if he's won a championship or not. You want an SEC Championship every year. You get mad when you don't play in a BCS Bowl. Then, one year removed from playing in the SEC CG against the eventual national champion, you have a bad season, fire your coach and end up with Lane Kiffin -> Derek Dooley -> next unproven winner.

Take your wins. The NC will come. It just might take longer than with other coaches.

Bobby Bowden - 18 years to win a NC
Joe Paterno - 17 years to win a NC
Tom Osborne - 22 years to win a NC

If you get greedy, you're going to end up irrelevant for 10 years instead of having another 10 years of having a good chance at winning a NC.

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You could say that about Les Miles too. He just lucked up and had the strangest luck of any coach alive in 2007.

Want some more comparisons:
Number of seasons with 0 losses: Miles 0, Richt 0
Number of seasons with 1 loss: Miles 1, Richt 1
Number of seasons having a chance to win a national championship with two losses: Miles 1, Richt 0, Saban 0, Spurrier 0, etc.

Seriously, the biggest difference between Les Miles and Mark Richt right now is Pitt > WVU in 2007. They both lose games they should win. They both play not to lose, and (outside of one season a piece) end up losing at least 2 games a year.

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First of all, why is your argument based off Les Miles? Who made Les Miles the standard bearer by which all other coaches should be judged?

Second of all, you're cherry picking stupid stuff. Like the fact that Les Miles has never gone undefeated has ANYTHING to do with whether Mark Richt is a good coach?

The biggest difference between Mark Richt and Les Miles is that Les Miles only squanders the talent on his team occasionally. On other occasions, he manages to field a truly elite team. And win BCS championships with those elite teams.

2002 was obviously Richt's best year. The SEC of 2002 was not today's SEC. This was the first year of the Ron Zook era. Tennessee's slow decline had already begun. And South Carolina was still the dogshit version of South Carolina we knew and loved. Also, he lost to Ron Zook. Additionally, that is about the most tenuous 13-1 record one could ever imagine. It's like Florida this year.

Check it: they beat Clemson by 3. South Carolina by 6. Bama by 2. Tennessee by 5. And Auburn by 3.

And how about we look at UGA's record since then.
11-3
10-2
10-3
9-4
11-2*
10-3
8-5
6-7
10-4

Let's say I showed you the above, and told you that the team that posted those records was the most talented in the country throughout that time span? What if I told you they were just one of the top 5 most talented teams in the country? What conclusions would you draw about the acumen of the coach?

*The 2007 UGA team deserves a paragraph of its own. That team was loaded. They dropped an early game to South Carolina. Won their next three, and then rolled into Knoxville and got their asses handed to them by a vastly inferior Tennessee team. Is that what good coaches do? I feel like the 2007 UGA/UT game is a microcosm for Mark Richt's entire tenure at UGA. Underachievement. Talent squandered. Massive NFL talent parlayed into 9-3 seasons.

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He's won back to back East titles and beaten UF, AU, UT, and GT two years in a row. He's about as safe as he can be.

I still don't think he's an elite coach, but we can do a lot worse. Last thing I want is to go the route of UT, AU, etc. If he was fired he would have job offers within a day and that should say something.

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To be clear, I'm not saying he's like Ron Prince or something. I don't think he's an abjectly terrible coach. I think he's an average coach.

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I think he's an average coach

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Please list the 50+ coaches who are better than him since he's average?

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Won their next three, and then rolled into Knoxville and got their asses handed to them by a vastly inferior Tennessee team. Is that what good coaches do?

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Yes. Every single one of them. You name me the top 25 coaches of the last 25 years, and I can guarantee you that I can go find where that coach lost games his teams shouldn't have lost. It has happened to every single coach that has every coached every sport at every level.

Saban's the best in the business. An inferior Texas A&M team dominated Bama.
Miles is a great coach. He loses to an inferior opponent every year.
Chip Kelly? Almost always loses a game to an inferior opponent.
Pete Carroll? Oregon, Oregon State, etc. constantly gave his superior Trojans a loss.
Big Game Bob?
Mack Brown?
Brian Kelly?
Bill Belichick?
Jimmy Johnson?
Bear Bryant?
Bobby Bowden?
Joe Paterno?

How about this? you find me one coach who coached for 5 years in any sport at any level who never once lost a game to a team that was inferior. Just one. I'll sit over here in the corner and hold my breath.

I think it's pretty clear that Richt is better than average. He just screwed up keeping Martinez as long as he did.