re: I guess Richt is off the hot seat?

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Forgive me if I gave the impression that the listed UT game was a comprehensive list. It was certainly not. Which is why I followed it up with a sentence that included the word microcosm.

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and, i'm saying that every coach does that. Nick Saban has lost a ton of games that his teams had no business losing. And, he's the best there is. Same with those other guys. It's not just one game over 10 years. It's multiple games. Very few coaches ever have a perfect season. The great Nick Saban has done it once. How many times have the other coaches I listed gone undefeated? It just doesn't happen that often. You act like Mark Richt isn't a good coach because he occasionally loses games he shouldn't . Well, then there aren't many good coaches in your opinion, and there are zero great ones who fit that criteria.

If Richt has one undefeated season in the next 3, it will put him on par with the greatest coaches of all time. To say he isn't good is ludicrous.

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You act like Mark Richt isn't a good coach because he occasionally loses games he shouldn't . Well, then there aren't many good coaches in your opinion, and there are zero great ones who fit that criteria.

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Dude, don't take a single sentence and try to pass it off as the premise of my argument. The premise of my argument was quite clear.

Mark Richt has vastly underachieved given the talent level of the players he has had.

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Please list the 50+ coaches who are better than him since he's average?

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How about I just list as many as i can think of off the top of my head? I type fast, so this shouldn't take long.

Pete Carroll
Chip Kelly
Rich Rod
Lane Kiffin (yes...I'd much rather have kiffin than Richt)
David Shaw
Jim Harbaugh
Mike Leach
Steve Sarkisian (this one is a toss-up...I don't love Sark)
Kyle Whittingham
Bronco Mendenhall
Brian Kelly
Art Briles
Tuberville
Bob Stoops
Mike Gundy
Dana Holgorsen
Mike Mcyntire
Gary Anderson
Pat Fitzgerald
Dave Doeren
Sonny Dykes
Brady Hoke
Urban Meyer
Bill O'Brien
God the B1G is an atrocious conference
Guz Malzahn
Hugh Freeze
Steve Spurrier
Les Miles
Nick Saban
James Franklin (not sure about this one)
Frank Beamer
Bobby Petrino
Todd Grantham
Jim Tressell
Bill Snyder
Greg Schiano
Butch Davis
David Cutcliffe (not a good recruiter, but a better coach than Richt for sure)
Kevin Sumlin
Todd Berry

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1. he has never had more talent than every other team in the SEC, aka, he's not coaching a team of future NFL stars against a bunch of future CFL players.

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Are you saying that at no point in Richt's tenure has UGA been the most talented team in the conference?

"Lane Kiffin (yes...I'd much rather have kiffin than Richt)"

lol..No need to read an farther..

Here is a question for all.

Has Mark Richt:
(a) underachieved, or
(b) overachieved.


I look forward to seeing everyone's responses.

You do realize that the head coach is responsible for recruiting..He hires the other coaches, sets the goals and so on..Does it make a difference if you win like Miles(simply out talent everyone) like Spurrier(out scheme everyone) or like Sabin or Richt( some combination of scheme and talent)..Winning is winning..

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So that win makes him a better coach? I would love to see you guys rehire Kiffen..He would leave your program in shambles for another 6 or 7 years..

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If you really believe this, then I won't be taking anything else you write particularly seriously.

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Are you saying that at no point in Richt's tenure has UGA been the most talented team in the conference?

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Here's some recruiting rankings from Rivals.com since he took over. You tell me if he's ever had, without question, the most talented team in the SEC:

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2002
Tenn #2
UGA #3
AU #6
USCe #11
LSU #15
MSU #17
UF #20
Ark #25

2003
LSU #1
UF #2
UGA #6
USCe#8
MSU #9
AU #11
UT #18

2004
LSU #2
UGA #9
UF #10
UT #20
UA #24
Ark #27

2005
UT #4
UGA #10
UF #15
UA #18
LSU #22
USCe #23
Ark #24

2006
UF #2
UGA #4
LSU #7
AU #10
UA #11
Ole Miss #15
UT #23
USCe #24

2007
UF #1
UT #3
LSU #4
USCe #6
AU #7
UGA #9
UA #10


2008
UA #1
UF #3
UGA #7
LSU #11
AU #20
USCe #22

2009
UA #1
LSU #2
UGA #6
UT #10
UF #11
USCe #12
Ark #16
Ole Miss #18
AU #19
MSU #25

2010
UF #2
AU #4
UA #5
LSU #6
UT #9
UGA #15
Ole Miss #18
USCe #24

2011
UA #1
UGA #5
LSU #6
AU #7
UF # 12
UT #13
USCe #18
Ole Miss #19
Ark #24

2012
UA #1
UF #3
AU #10
UGA #12
UT #17
LSU #18
USCe #19

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That's a whole lot of talent at a bunch of UGA's competition. And to be honest, you are the first person I've ever heard claim that UGA has ever, in the last 30 years, had more talent than any other SEC team.

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Has Mark Richt:
(a) underachieved, or
(b) overachieved.

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lets see, a guy who has never been a head coach before goes into the toughest conference in the country and has a 75% winning percentage over the course of 12 seasons. That is extremely easy to say that is overachieving. I can't imagine the expectations for hiring a young, unproven coach, with no head coaching experience were very high.