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re: How attractive is the UT job?

Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:34 am to
Posted by As RXd
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:34 am to
Tradition? Yes. But things change, dude. LSU and UGA are much better jobs than UT simply due to the ease of things. Yes, a great coach can succeed at UT, but he has to be willing to work his arse off on the recruiting trail. There's a reason your budget is so damn high.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:35 am to
Would the person betting the UT job be indicative in any way of the quality of coach that LSU might get if Miles was canned?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:37 am to
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Tradition? Yes. But things change, dude. LSU and UGA are much better jobs than UT simply due to the ease of things. Yes, a great coach can succeed at UT, but he has to be willing to work his arse off on the recruiting trail. There's a reason your budget is so damn high.



What makes UG so damn great. And with internet, texting and everything else... it's not like the old days with recruiting of having to sit at momma's table in the backyard of your school to recruit all the time now. UG hasn't done shite lately.
Posted by As RXd
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:40 am to
First off, I'm not a UGA fan. I am always changing my logo next to my name. I'm an LSU fan.

Secondly, UGA is better because kids just commit there. There's no real work to get kids to come there. They're raised to want to play for the dawgs. Georgia is a top five state for talent.

UT has to compete with all those states for their talent. Tenn doesn't have the in state talent that most southern states have.
Posted by Grabo
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:46 am to
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Top 20 for sure. But you've got to be a little ballsy competing with UGA, UF, Bama for their in state kids because yours doesn't produce enough home grown talent.


This.

Those schools along with LSU have the luxury of having a strong recruiting base every year without having to leave the state. Then on top of that they can cherry pick some kid from surrounding states.

Tennessee has to go in and battle UGA, UF, Bama, and LSU for kids who have grown up dreaming of playing for the in state school.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:48 am to
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Not quite getting the ubber love for UG over UT.

the state of GA has retarded talent

the state of Tenn has shite for talent
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:56 am to
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the state of GA has retarded talent

the state of Tenn has shite for talent





leaves a lot to be desired if this is your only argument for UG.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:59 am to
you guys are crazy.....it's USC, UF, Texas and everybody else. those are the only three schools that never have to leave their home state.
Posted by Klaus
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:59 am to
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Chad504boy


UGA is a very good job. It's a great area to raise a family and has loads of high school talent. They will have no problem finding a coach once Richt leaves.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:00 am to
You delusional tards also thought lane was a good coach and not douchey at all

opinion=invalid
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:02 am to
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UGA is a very good job. It's a great area to raise a family and has loads of high school talent. They will have no problem finding a coach once Richt leaves.


Not saying its not. But I think its right below UT.

I would say:
Florida
Bama
LSU
UT
UG
Auburn
Arkansas
Ole Miss
S. Carolina
Kentucky
Ms. State
Vanderbilt
Posted by Big Fat
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:04 am to
I think UT is a top tier job no doubt. Huge stadium, great fanbase, lots of tradition and success.
Posted by AcetylCoA
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:09 am to
My question is why Bama over LSU? Is it not much easier to recruit at LSU? Also you are the flagship university in the state, no division of fans or resources.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:12 am to
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My question is why Bama over LSU? Is it not much easier to recruit at LSU? Also you are the flagship university in the state, no division of fans or resources


Bama and LSU much closer than people in the thread are saying.

Neck and neck, imo.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:13 am to
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My question is why Bama over LSU? Is it not much easier to recruit at LSU? Also you are the flagship university in the state, no division of fans or resources.


bama's history and legacy. LSU has had a great decade but it's been decades before then before we were truly relevant.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:13 am to
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3rd? no way. I'm thinking 5th best in the SEC, but AU and UT are pretty close.


agree

although the second best program in the SEC historically... Florida, LSU, UGA, and Alabama have clear advantages in recruiting IMO
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:14 am to
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leaves a lot to be desired if this is your only argument for UG.

recruiting is most of CFB
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:24 am to
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recruiting is most of CFB


facilities, campus, location, beauty, history, ability to recruit talent, stadium, fan base, alumni base... all parts of the equation. Notre Dame don't recruit in just their backyard. USC neither. Big programs expand their wings.
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:37 am to
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Would the person betting the UT job be indicative in any way of the quality of coach that LSU might get if Miles was canned?

I think it's impossible not to think about this issue. It's not hard to draw Miles/Fulmer parallels and what firing the "underacheiving" coach can get you.

I think SFP and others are overstating how poor Tennessee's recruiting base is. Memphis is loaded, though a cesspool. Tenn has some huge population centers, and it also is the big dog who can easily raid Kentucky, Virginia, and the Carolinas. And given UT's budget and tradition, they can even dip into Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi. They have a HUGE natural recruiting area. The neighboring states are devioud of power programs to the east, west, and north.

Tennessee's got tons of money and a huge, rabid fanbase. they also don't have to recruit against Florida and LSU for most of their kids, two of the biggest kids on the SEC block.

I think it's a really good job based on history, money, facilities, and even recruiting. It's no accident they are top 10-15 in wins.
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:46 am to
Definitely a great job, but not as "easy" as some of teh other top jobs.
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