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re: Herman vs O
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:14 pm to tigerbank24
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:14 pm to tigerbank24
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tigerbank24
The question needs to be asked, "If they were so tight why didn't Burrow go to Texas when the opportunity presented itself?"
Do you have an answer for that?
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:17 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:
Do you have an answer for that?
They had Ehlinger and wasn’t in the market for a transfer quarterback
I’m not even sure if Texas had a scholarship open at the time
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:17 pm to ibleedprplngld
quote:
2. Herman was an epic failure at UT.
The guy before Herman had three straight losing seasons.
Herman, in four seasons, never had a losing season and won a Sugar Bowl and finished a season in the Top 10.
I don’t call that an “epic failure”.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:21 pm to GeekedUp
Herman went 32-18 with 4 bowl wins
Ogeron went 45-14 with 3 bowl wins (in 5 seasons)
Now I inherited more talent than what Herman walked into but I did it in a stronger conference as well. I say it is a wash but I think Herman could have produced a similar record, however, under O LSU had one or the greatest seasons in CFB.
Ogeron went 45-14 with 3 bowl wins (in 5 seasons)
Now I inherited more talent than what Herman walked into but I did it in a stronger conference as well. I say it is a wash but I think Herman could have produced a similar record, however, under O LSU had one or the greatest seasons in CFB.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:31 pm to Nutriaitch
quote:
are we still pretending like O didn’t inherit a much better situation than Herman did?
lulz.. you do realize he was responsible for a good bit of that better situation. lulz
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:51 pm to Jcorye1
quote:
I think Herman is a better coach
Based on what, your eyeball test? Meanwhile, in the real world, Orgeron recruited better than Herman, O coached better, O won more, O won the ship, and O beat Herman on UT's home field. But you're going with your eyeball test?
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:55 pm to GeekedUp
Very plausible he wouldve gotten burrow here as he recruited him to ohio st. Also knows aranda, so possible he was on staff too
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:59 pm to josh336
But what we do know is O won a National Championship, and Herman just got fired. I wouldn’t trade that Natty. Best season ever.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:03 pm to Philzilla2k
No one is suggesting we trade it
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:13 pm to dcw7g
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No matter what else happens, O was the better hire. We got a Heisman Trophy winner and the best season in the history of college football. Those things will last forever.
This is results oriented thinking. It has no real weight in the discussion.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
This is results oriented thinking. It has no real weight in the discussion.
Wut?
Results don’t matter?
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:41 pm to josh336
quote:
No one is suggesting we trade it
Don’t miss him either, and there is no comparison.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:57 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Herman would have had more success here than O.
Herman thinks he’s smarter than he is and can’t get out of his own way. He made the same mistakes at Texas that he did at Houston. You just don’t get a pass for them there. He wouldn’t have here, either.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:34 pm to CottonWasKing
quote:well you only have results from one scenario. That’s why hypotheticals like this are pointless and dumb.
Wut?
Results don’t matter?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:41 am to GeekedUp
quote:
Herman vs O by GeekedUp
I wouldn't really call it a comparison when youre talking about an Xs n Os coach vs a figure head recruiter.
We saw what Herman can do and we also have seen what O can do with great Coordinators (last season)AND without.. (This season)
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:42 am to OneMoreTime
Its a messageboard, a perfect place to debate a hypothetical.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
This is results oriented thinking. It has no real weight in the discussion.
Correct, this discussion is purely hypothetical, and therefore totally useless.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 8:38 am to CottonWasKing
quote:
Results don’t matter?
as has been stated before, this is a pure hypothetical so you can make Herman at LSU as successful or as shitty as you want
but another way to think of it in realistic terms is a poker analogy i used a lot in the offseason when people were trying to call me out for not backing down from my stance that O was a bad hire (AFTER the magical 2019 season).
you're on the turn (so 1 card left) with an inside straight draw (so 4 outs, roughly 9% chance). somebody who acts before you goes all in for roughly pot, which is more money than you have left. making that call is terrible, even if you hit one of those 4 magical outs. results-oriented thinking is hitting that longshot and telling yourself it was the right call b/c it worked out.
naw
Posted on 1/3/21 at 8:41 am to Nutriaitch
quote:
are we still pretending like O didn’t inherit a much better situation than Herman did?
He inherited Etling while UT had two 5 star QBs at the time.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:12 am to GeekedUp
If O has another 4-5 loss season next season then 2019 will soon start looking like the outlier where all things aligned perfectly.... Much like Chizik, no one will trade 2019 but sustaining those levels is harder than reaching them once
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