re: Here’s what I know 11-11

Chicken i am nominating you for poster of the year.

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o doubt, but he's performed better vs. top 25 teams than Kiffin has. Freeman is 14-5 against top 25 teams. Kiffin is 11-24.

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Let's not pretend like Lane's OM teams wouldn't boat race the military academies that ND plays each year that usually are ranked somewhere between #20 and #25.

If you want to compare apples to apples, use top 15 teams. At least those are somewhat comparable and are usually P4 teams.

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Here are their respective records against top 15 and top 10 teams from 2021 forward. (I removed the COVID year since half the country didn't play and the rankings were all jacked up that year.)

Freeman (2022-2025)
vs. top15: 6-5
vs. top 10: 5-5

Kiffin (2021-2025)
vs. top 15: 8-7
vs. top 10: 4-5

Freeman has not significantly outperformed Lane.

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After days ago saying Florida was close to hiring Coach Prime.

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it’s a fluid situation, depending on if he’s let go by Colorado

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Freeman has accomplished more than Kiffin in half the time as a head coach, plus hasn't had the major failures Kiffin has had.

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Freeman took over a team that was 54-10 in the five years before he took over for Kelly. Ole Miss was 30-33 in the five years before Kiffin took over. Kiffin's winning percentage is .736 vs Freeman's .800, with Ole Miss playing a more difficult schedule annually.

I don't really like Kiffin, but what he's done at Ole Miss is much more impressive than what Freeman's done at Notre Dame.

I'd have a lot more confidence in Kiffin being successful at Notre Dame than I would of Freeman being successful at Ole Miss.

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Let's not pretend like Lane's OM teams wouldn't boat race the military academies that ND plays each year that usually are ranked somewhere between #20 and #25.

If you want to compare apples to apples, use top 15 teams. At least those are somewhat comparable and are usually P4 teams.

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His 14 wins came against:

1. BYU (No. 16)
2. Syracuse (No. 16)
3. Clemson (No. 4)
4. South Carolina (No. 19)
5. Duke (No. 17)
6. USC (No. 10)
7. Oregon State (No. 19)
8. Texas A&M (No. 20)
9. Louisville (No. 15)
10. Navy (No. 24)
11. Army (No. 19)
12. Indiana (No. 8)
13. Georgia (No. 2)
14. Penn State (No. 4)

There's only two military academy wins on there. Even taking out some of the other weaker P4 programs (Duke, UNC, BYU, Oregon State, Syracuse) his record is still better than Kiffins.

I realize there are other factors that play into this. Just pointing out that Kiffin has not exactly been stellar against top 25 teams.

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2024:

4. Notre Dame
15. Ole Miss

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does this include playoff games?

I would assume those SOS include all post-season games (playoffs and bowls).

They lost to Northern Illinois last year. Let that sink in. The playoff bracket was incredibly messed up too and Georgia didn't even have their starting QB. They had the luckiest path ever to a NC. Freeman is a pretty good coach but incredibly overrated and SEC eats pretty good coaches alive. Lots of pretty good coaches get the ax 2-3 years in an ultra competitive conference.

They should've been automatically disqualified losing to NI because that's historically bad. The NC game showed you just how undeserving they were to be there. Half the teams in the playoffs had no business being there. Committee was horrible last year favoring undeserving teams and lack of SOS. South Carolina got hosed because they were probably the hottest team second half and deserved a shot.

Here's another downvote because you don't know what you're talking about and neither does your friend.