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For the older posters on this board: Skip Bertman retirement

Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:11 am
How involved was he with Smoke when he took over? I know he took over as AD, but did he still have his hands in the baseball program on a regular basis?

To be more clear, I am not referring to the hiring process but more of the day to day operation of the baseball program post retirement.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 10:51 am
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:17 am to
He became the AD when he retired from coaching so he was pretty involved with the hiring
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
4289 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:17 am to
quote:

did he still have his hands in the baseball program on a regular basis?


Yes, still kind of does to an extent.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11104 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:20 am to
quote:

He became the AD when he retired from coaching so he was pretty involved with the hiring




You should re-read that post.
Posted by dukesilver72
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
1257 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:21 am to
Wasn't Smoke his handpicked successor? We all saw how that disaster went.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51585 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:23 am to
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Wasn't Smoke his handpicked successor? We all saw how that disaster went.

Multiple trips to the world series in Omaha? What a fricking disaster that was!
Posted by BadaBingBadaBoom
Lafourche Parish
Member since Mar 2022
2587 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:26 am to
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Wasn't Smoke his handpicked successor? We all saw how that disaster went.


quote:

Multiple trips to the world series in Omaha? What a fricking disaster that was!



Clearly you have no clue! Smoke was a disaster hire! If you're basing his success off of going to a few college world series then I don't think you can be helped! He went with Skips players!

I'll back it up with numbers.

2003 - 45-22-1
2004 - 44-22
2005 - 40-22 (lost 12 SEC games)
2006 - 35-24 (missed the NCAAT for the first time in 18 years and was fired)

Point is, he won with Skips players and he stopped recruiting. He thought players would just come to LSU because it was LSU.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 10:32 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89801 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:28 am to
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Multiple trips to the world series in Omaha? What a fricking disaster that was!


Two trips.

0-4

In his final season, we missed out on the NCAA tournament for the first time in 17 years.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 10:30 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89801 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:34 am to
Smoke is a solid, knowledgable baseball guy. Still a scout in the Braves system, last I heard. Great teacher as an assistant. Guys who played when he was an assistant here still love him.

Being the HC of a dynastic program was too big of a job for him. Not everybody is cut out to be a head coach.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 10:35 am
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65577 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:38 am to
Bama fans are about to learn. Skip won 5 national titles in the 11 years prior to his retirement. LSU certainly did not fall to mediocrity after he left. We won many SEC titles, we went to Omaha on a pretty regular basis.

But LSU won 1 national title in the 21 years that followed Skip. While LSU was still an elite team in the SEC and college baseball, it no longer dominated college baseball and other teams caught up to LSU and had passed them. (Jay Johnson 22 years later has LSU back on top and is poised for a great run, but it has been 22 years of having to share the trophies)

I see a similar future for Bama football. They will still be very good, but the sport of college football will not run through Tuscaloosa alone.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
7240 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:38 am to
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How involved was he with Smoke when he took over?


Smoke was the hand-picked successor and came in a year before the retirement as a 'head coach in waiting' if I recall.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
8251 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:52 am to
quote:

How involved was he with Smoke when he took over? I know he took over as AD, but did he still have his hands in the baseball program on a regular basis?


His hands were on the $100 slots at Beau Rivage.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24388 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:55 am to
quote:

How involved was he with Smoke when he took over?


I know Skip made Smoke give him a portion of the summer baseball camp money while Smoke was the coach.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39643 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:09 pm to
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Multiple trips to the world series in Omaha? What a fricking disaster that was!
is this a joke? It took him 4 years to completely destroy a program that was fresh off 5 titles in 10 years
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Smoke WAS his handpicked successor
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55342 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

did he still have his hands in the baseball program on a regular basis? Yes, still kind of does to an extent.
I thought they just showed him on tv every now and then at big games
Posted by geauxfortwo
Livin the dream
Member since Jan 2018
2013 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:48 pm to
I don’t think they had the interwebs back then
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
74011 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

he stopped recruiting

eh, he didn't stop recruiting, he just recruited like a dumbass. He'd sign nothing but kids who would never make it to campus and was left with scraps who had no business playing for LSU.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45405 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 1:05 pm to
Smoke was hired the year before Skip actually retired, he was the asst. coach (HC in waiting) they year before.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
4289 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 1:59 pm to
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I thought they just showed him on tv every now and then at big games


It's moreso a pay your respects type of deal now for Jay Johnson to Skip Bertman.

It's definitely Jay Johnson's program.

Skip isn't around the facilities nearly as much as he was for Mainieri.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 2:01 pm
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