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re: For the no to O crowd

Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:00 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79845 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:00 am to
And won big games. He beat a top 10 FSU in a bowl game and a top 10 Oklahoma.

We will never win anything if we can't win big games.

Did anyone watch O during the Arkansas game? He doesn't do anything besides stand there looking like he has heartburn.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41984 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Nick Saban wasnt always this Nick Saban. The next Nick saban could very well be out there.


Dave Aranda
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
6044 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:01 am to
quote:

How many losses will you spot the new coach before you are ready to fire him?

1
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Herman lost 2 games he shouldn't have



How many has Coach O? Has to be at least 15.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:04 am to
quote:


For the no to O crowd
How many losses will you spot the new coach before you are ready to fire him?


What do these things have to do with each other...other than what seems to be your assumption that not liking Orgeron seems to be some flaw that would result in someone automatically having a short leash for a new coach?
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16281 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Did anyone watch O during the Arkansas game? He doesn't do anything besides stand there looking like he has heartburn.


So miles eating grass with the DUH look and Saban screaming at his players is more your style.
Posted by bishop
Maiden, North Carolina
Member since Jun 2004
2472 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:08 am to
I am not a "no to O" guy but I am concerned. I believe that Coach O is a player's coach and can motivate the team. We all know that he can recruit which is one of the most important aspects of the job...but from my point of view and from the perspective of some upper level boosters and LSU leaders, the question remains: "Can he run a multi-million dollar company?"
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
6044 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:09 am to
Did Alleva say Coach O would get fair consideration for the job? If so, and O wins out, he's basically painted himself into a corner to hire him.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:11 am to
quote:

O wins out


He hasn't won out.

Or did the season start over again after Alabama?
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2969 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:24 am to
LSU's head coach, whom ever that is, has to be able to recruit and keep Louisiana talent at home, PERIOD.

That alone is the foundation that Saban started and Miles continued. The formula has worked for the most part. Now we simply need a head coach that has great coordinators in place and to get out of their way. Well, the DC is already here and I'm sure Coach O will find an OC / QB coach to provide the level of success the D has had.

Have a true love for LSU (check), recruit (check), put people in positions to shore up weak spots (check), etc.....

You have to give him a chance, you mention that there is the next Saban out there, why not CEO?
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Well, the DC is already here


So what happens when he is gone in a year?

quote:

I'm sure Coach O will find an OC / QB coach to provide the level of success the D has had.


Based on what? On what happens, IF he does so, and they are gone in a year?
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2969 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:43 am to
What makes you think he is gone is a year, treat him right $$ and see what happens. Not everyone wants to be a head coach. I surely don't know his desires, but you probably don't either.

A Fisher or Herman will cost us tons of money and probably won't win a championship either.

And after 2 or 3 short years, you will be clamoring for his head and complaining that we didn't hire the other one, just like the QB position.

Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7274 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:46 am to
quote:

"Can he run a multi-million dollar company?"


He will always be coordinator dependent, and coordinator turnover is high. That creates a lot of volatility, and results will not be steady.

I think he is a solid last resort, but I would prefer a coach who can own the offense or the defense, so that play from one side of the ball remains steady.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64587 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:46 am to
quote:

How many losses will you spot the new coach before you are ready to fire him?


Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:50 am to
Neaux to Oeaux
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
6044 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:51 am to
I said wins out. Meaning the rest of the games. Losing to the best team in college football the way we did isn't going to cost him the job. Win the rest and the bowl game and Alleva looks like a total dick if he doesn't at least offer him the job. And we all know that Alleva doesn't want to look like a dick again.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 9:53 am
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:52 am to
Aranda will be a head coach.
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:58 am to
10-2
9-3

I'm fine with those.

We lose to bama, one of UF/Auburn and maybe a non big six sec school when they are having a great year.

Its the way we lose that matters.

We play good games and lose because of a turnover or two or because the other team makes a great play then so be it.
I can't take losing games because the offense doesn't adapt or because of clock blunders
Posted by Spankem
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
1079 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:58 am to
quote:

So miles eating grass with the DUH look


Don't forget clapping like a symbol monkey.
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