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re: For the no to O crowd

Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:00 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64587 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:00 am to
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Alleva looks like a total dick if he doesn't at least offer him the job.


Do you people not understand what "interim" means?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38518 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:02 am to
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You're not going to find the perfect coach. There is no other Nick Saban. There is no other Urban Meyer. Every coach has faults


Don't waste your breath. For most on here, nothing short of Saban will do. The Coaching 'tards on here really believe that guys like Jimbo and Herman are pleasuring themselves with the prospect of a call from Joe Alleva.

If Orgeron continues to win in the manner that he has, it would be hard to justify letting him go. You could have a whole bunch of Juniors possibly declaring for the draft depending on who the new coach is.

Saban leaving and then coming back and coaching at Alabama has mindscrewed LSU fans for at least a generation
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:11 am to
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You could have a whole bunch of Juniors possibly declaring for the draft depending on who the new coach is.


I'm sure the players are furious at the thought of having a coach that won a NC just a few years ago. Or another bright mind that schemed a great game against Nick Saban and also beat the previously mentioned coach a year ago.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:17 am to
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quote: I'm sure Coach O will find an OC / QB coach to provide the level of success the D has had.


Based on what? On what happens, IF he does so, and they are gone in a year?


He promoted a TE's coach to OC. That TE's coach set three all-time LSU records in his first three games. He has averaged a 29 point advantage in all four wins. He has averaged a 27 point advantage in three SEC wins.

I would say so-far so-good. Wait until he gets a real OC. Even if the new OC doesn't work out he can always re-promote SE to OC again. So, that is one of the things that should be of least concern to LSU fans - the worst that can happen is they stay with a record setting offense winning games by an average of 29 points.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:19 am to
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He promoted a TE's coach to OC. That TE's coach set three all-time LSU records in his first three games. He has averaged a 29 point advantage in all four wins. He has averaged a 27 point advantage in three SEC wins.


If Ensminger is doing so well why are people pushing so hard to replace him?? If you want to keep O you should want to keep Ensminger as well.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:25 am to
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"Can he run a multi-million dollar company?"


It's not like he is out appraising property, spends half his day signing checks, attending budget and forecast meetings or is dealing with CEO's from other multi-million dollar corporations.

LSU is a state run organization and LSU has plenty of administrative staff. I'm sure the admin staff goes to Alleva for questions and concerns - that's his job not O's.

If Les Miles could successfully run a multi-million dollar corporation such as LSU, I have no concern what-so-ever that Coach O can do it.

If it was that difficult, people like Donald Trump would be coaches and 85% of head coaches in the country would have a different profession.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:27 am to
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Did anyone watch O during the Arkansas game? He doesn't do anything besides stand there looking like he has heartburn.


what did CLM do other than clap like a seal, look completely befuddled, and eat grass?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:33 am to
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If Ensminger is doing so well why are people pushing so hard to replace him?? If you want to keep O you should want to keep Ensminger as well.


They are clamoring for him to be replaced because he is a TE's coach and I heard he doesn't even want the OC position. Why would I or O want to keep a TE's coach as OC? I don't exactly follow your post.

My point was, that if a TE's coach can come in and set records and beat the shite of the other teams (except Bama) with five games on the job, it would be down right scary what LSU could do with a real OC as opposed to a TE coach.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:51 am to
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They are clamoring for him to be replaced because he is a TE's coach


So previous work experience only applies to OCs and not HCs?

quote:

it would be down right scary what LSU could do with a real HC as opposed to a DL coach.




FTFY
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
88380 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:59 am to
Probably well before he gets to 28 losses in 48 games
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38518 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:11 am to
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I'm sure the players are furious at the thought of having a coach that won a NC just a few years ago. Or another bright mind that schemed a great game against Nick Saban and also beat the previously mentioned coach a year ago.


With Jimbo you will get more of Miles plus he's a real asswipe. Also there will be less institutional control of the players....see Jameis and some of the other players.

I like the idea of Herman, but I am not sold on him. Winning at Houston is one thing, but winning in the SEC is quite another....see Sumlin.

I like the idea of Gundy because he has as good an offensive mind as Herman and he has a ton of experience with recruiting

Don't know much about Fleck....sounds like flavor of the month

Fedora loses games he is supposed to win....see 2016 v. Duke

It should be someone from outside the normal cast of characters.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:50 am to
And how has that offense done when there wasn't a complete and total talent mis-match in our favor?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:45 pm to
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And how has that offense done when there wasn't a complete and total talent mis-match in our favor?


You mean with the TE's coach who has been on the job for five games? Against the best team in the country?

How would they do with a good OC is the question.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7454 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:01 pm to
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Why would I or O want to keep a TE's coach as OC? I


Because

quote:

set three all-time LSU records in his first three games. He has averaged a 29 point advantage in all four wins. He has averaged a 27 point advantage in three SEC wins.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:17 pm to
This moving of the goalposts has to be tiring
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

quote:
Why would I or O want to keep a TE's coach as OC? I


Because

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set three all-time LSU records in his first three games. He has averaged a 29 point advantage in all four wins. He has averaged a 27 point advantage in three SEC wins.



That is the biggest positive to me. O can hire a good OC for the future. If for some reason the new guy doesn't work out or leaves for another job the worst that can happen is O can re-promote SE to OC again. That is the worst case scenario for OC. So we may lose to Bama and win the rest of the games. That's the best you will get from any other HC anyway.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:28 pm to
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This moving of the goalposts has to be tiring


What goalposts have been moved?
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:42 pm to
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How many losses will you spot the new coach before you are ready to fire him?


pretty sure i could win most of our games considering he inherited the preseason #3 ranked team in the country, quit acting like he came in and changed everything.. all he did was wake up a sleeping giant.. that is all.. no he doesnt deserve the job based on what he is doing now..
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:43 pm to
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pretty sure i could win most of our games considering he inherited the preseason #3 ranked team in the country,


Lol
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15411 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 2:25 pm to
Son you are a retard
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