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Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:00 pm to BornKjun
Herman had no trouble moving the ball on alabama when he had equal talent to work with at OSU.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:06 pm to BornKjun
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FACT: SEC schedule >>>>> American Conference schedule
if you are playing with SEC talent it is, but Herman isn't, he's playing with AAC talent now isn't he.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:13 pm to BornKjun
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Herman's record so far is mixed
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Even in a strong year last year, Houston lost to UCONN
So? They won their conference and a major bowl over FSU. He wasn't coaching against UConn with LSU talent. Remember Saban lost to UAB at LSU and ULM at Alabama.
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This year has clearly been a disappointment
relative to what they hoped maybe, but he could finish 11-3 (will likely lose to Louisville) and finished ranked, that's pretty good for their level. quote:
They beat Oklahoma but Oklahoma's defense is not strong at all.
again so? OU is currently ranked #12, their only 2 loses are to UH and tOSU. They are the favorites to win a P5 conference which would put them in a major bowl.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:15 pm to BornKjun
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I'm not sure yet.
However, I think I can make a case that Dan Mullen should be hired before Tom Herman.
Thank you for providing a thoughtful response. I think people who have Herman that high are looking at him as being the next Meyer. I admit i really like his potential, but if you want proven success you go with a jimbo type guy. Mullen just isn't a "sexy" option, but i do understand your argument, and i can't really point out anything wrong with it. The big difference is we know what we get with Mullen. Herman is the more exciting prospect on where he could take us. Right or wrong it is what it is. Only time will tell if we were right or wrong.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:19 pm to BornKjun
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If 2014 Sugar Bowl was last year, how many people would want to hire Josh Heupel after Oklahoma beat Bama?
i can only speak for myself, but hire him as what HC at LSU or OC? I wouldn't have wanted Herman after the 2014 season as HC at LSU either.
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scoring a bunch a points as an OC is impressive but should not be a reason to make someone a top choice for HC at LSU
its not, it's his overall resume, of which is time as an OC is relevant and therefore a plus in his favor, not the only reason, but for some reason people like to cherry pick and draw direct comparisons as if that proves anything.
I've said a million times, his lack of experience is the biggest negative against Herman. I'm fine if you think that makes him a risky hire and not a guy you want, but it is dishonest to keep cherry picking and making strawman arguments.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:23 pm to BornKjun
Houston may end up 5th in their division.
Think about that.
5th in a division of the AAC
Think about that.
5th in a division of the AAC
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:31 pm to BornKjun
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Herman's record so far is mixed.
Herman has been upset by less talented teams 3 times in two years. He only has two wins against teams that may be considered more talented.
He beat 2 good teams, lost to 3 shitty teams.
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This year has clearly been a disappointment. They beat Oklahoma but Oklahoma's defense is not strong at all.
OU's best win this year is against a 5-4 TCU.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:34 pm to BornKjun
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Yes, Ohio State beat Alabama. Should Josh Heupel be a candidate because Oklahoma scored 43 points against Bama in the Sugar Bowl?
Wait, you think Herman is hot shite only because of his tenure at OSU?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:35 pm to BornKjun
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and may not be the genius some think he is.
Well he's literally a Mensa member
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:40 pm to abellsujr
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He also brought Houston recruiting from the 80s and 90s in rankings to the 20s.
That probably has a lot to do with Ed Oliver. The 5-star D-line whose brother was on the Houston team already and high-school coach was hired by the Hermster. I wouldn't exactly call that great recruiting.
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Oh yea, and like you said, he beat Alabama.
Urban Meyer and the Ohio State Buckeyes beat Alabama. Sorry coordinators don't get credits for wins and losses.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:45 pm to Jeff Goldblum
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Tom Herrman is greatly overrated. He's perfect for Texas.
Wait until after the season. Texas may not even want him with two more losses.
I'm not totally an O person, but I think it is funny that he lost to Ala-fricking-bama and how the Herm people have ruled him unfit. While their guy has lost to Navy and SMU when he had much more talent and they want this guy to lead the LSU program.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:48 pm to abellsujr
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There is a case for Herman and proof to back it up.
Really, what? What Urban Meyer did while Hermdude worked for him? What he did in his first year with someone else's players? This year at Houston when he went from #6 to unranked? His last four games at Houston?
What exactly is the current proof for him to lead the LSU program?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:51 pm to Tiger Ree
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Urban Meyer and the Ohio State Buckeyes beat Alabama. Sorry coordinators don't get credits for wins and losses.
Says the guy who posts about Coach O's national championship rings...lmao. you're consistent if nothing else.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:52 pm to BornKjun
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Dan Mullen's record ATS at Miss State is 51-46 overall and 31-24 as a favorite (I prefer a HC with a positive ATS record; Herman is 13-10 overall so far but 9-10 as favorite).
Very interesting !!! I fear Herman's will continue to get worse.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:53 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Herman had no trouble moving the ball on alabama when he had equal talent to work with at OSU.
And I'm sure he will somebody (maybe LSU) a fine OC one day.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:54 pm to Tiger Ree
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Herman has been upset by less talented teams 3 times in two years
so has pretty much every coach that has ever lived.
Since all you do is take shots at Herman, I'm not sure who you like, but i'm willing to bet i can find a bad loss or 2 on his resume.
That you keep bringing this shows you really have no clue how to evaluate a coach.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:57 pm to higgins
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Houston may end up 5th in their division.
Think about that.
5th in a division of the AAC
Very possible, and that is with a team that was ranked #6 in the country playing in the AAC. Just wait until next year when more of the previous staff's players are gone.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:58 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Since all you do is take shots at Herman, I'm not sure who you like, but i'm willing to bet i can find a bad loss or 2 on his resume.
You can find way more than 2. His guy is Coach O.
Eta: this post should tell you all you need to know about his logic when evaluating HCs for the LSU position.
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Posted by Tiger Ree online on 11/7/16 at 1:26 pm to Watchmaker
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Fair question about CEO. What's on his resume that qualify him as coach at LSU.
First thing is the other candidates. Jimbo is 10-6 in his last 16 games. Herminator is 2-2 in his last four games.
CEO has four national championship rings.
He was hired by and worked under two coaches that not only won college national championships but also super bowls.
He is known as a very good recruiter.
In his last two HC gigs he is 9-3. That is in the Pac-12 and SEC. Not some shite conference like the American
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:59 pm to Tiger Ree
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but I think it is funny that he lost to Ala-fricking-bama
he didn't just lose to Alabama
he lost to
Alabama (4x)
UCLA
Notre Dame
Mississippi State (3x)
Auburn (3x)
Arkansas (3x)
Georgia (2x)
Florida
Vanderbilt (2x)
Missouri (2x)
Kentucky
Wake Forest
Tennessee
Wyoming
I didn't count all his loses to LSU because hiring him i guess woudl eliminate 1 team that can beat him.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:00 pm
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