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re: FACTS: LSU v Houston
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:44 pm to Tiger Ree
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:44 pm to Tiger Ree
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So the QB and coaching awards don't matter. That's how you make your point by throwing out pertinent information related to the two programs and say "who gives a shite"?
No, they really don't fricking matter. The fact that you're having to be that selective should YELL to the weakness of your arguments.
25 consensus all americans for LSU
7 consensus all americans for UH (0 since 1989)
Wins LSU >>>>> UH
Win % LSU >>>>>UH
NCs LSU >>>>>>>>>>>UH
Top 25 finishes LSU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UH
Top 10 finishes LSU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UH
But they won a QB award or two.
And even so, LSU has had 5 coaches retired into the hall of fame, and will have 2 more added to that list soon enough. UH has had 2 coaches
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:50 pm
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:47 pm to abellsujr
His post history for some time now has indicated that he's an O guy.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:51 pm to c on z
quote:Well then to say he's hypocritical would be the understatement of the century.
His post history for some time now has indicated that he's an O guy.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:52 pm to abellsujr
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You still have not said who your guy is. I can't wait to look at what he's accomplished. I bet it's O isn't it? Oh please be O.
Read this and along with his other post history and take a wild guess who he hopes is LSU's HC next year.
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Posted by Tiger Ree online on 11/7/16 at 1:26 pm to Watchmaker
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Fair question about CEO. What's on his resume that qualify him as coach at LSU.
First thing is the other candidates. Jimbo is 10-6 in his last 16 games. Herminator is 2-2 in his last four games.
CEO has four national championship rings.
He was hired by and worked under two coaches that not only won college national championships but also super bowls.
He is known as a very good recruiter.
In his last two HC gigs he is 9-3. That is in the Pac-12 and SEC. Not some shite conference like the American
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:52 pm to Tiger Ree
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WTF does UAB have to do with anything? LSU losing to UAB in Saban's first year before he had his players and system installed, should in NO way be compared to Herman losing to SMU while gaining 303 total offensive yards in his second season.
Shifting arguments to suit your points, nice,
Not that we needed it but just more proof that you are too dishonest or dim to conduct an argument. I'd have more respect for you if you said you didn't like Herman because he slept with your mom.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:55 pm to Tiger Tracker
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CEO has four national championship rings.
He criticized Herman for having absolutely nothing to do with a NC as an OC, but gave O credit for having NCs as a Dline coach?
My God. This one is the worst of them all.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:58 pm to TigerBait1127
You know what program has 2 hall of fame coaches, a Heisman Trophy, 12 consensus All-Americans AND claims 2 national championships?
The University of Chicago is closer to UH historically and they dropped major college football in 1939.
The University of Chicago is closer to UH historically and they dropped major college football in 1939.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:58 pm to TigerBait1127
Okay, so the bottom line of the matter (or thread) is you can't counter any of the facts I have posted about Herman not being fit to lead the LSU football program.
Now you are trying to steer the conversation to a debate over Houston vs LSU's history. Or, better yet, who does he want as the head coach of the LSU program.
Yeah, just like Tiger Tracker, I know when I am slapping him around in a thread because he stops replying to me and starts giving moral support to those that are.
So tell me, how great has the Houston program looked over the last month in a half? How do you see your hero finishing out the season? Why is he doing a much worse job of coaching in his second year then he did in his first? What can he do to turn this month long skid around and get his team to perform better?
Now you are trying to steer the conversation to a debate over Houston vs LSU's history. Or, better yet, who does he want as the head coach of the LSU program.
Yeah, just like Tiger Tracker, I know when I am slapping him around in a thread because he stops replying to me and starts giving moral support to those that are.
So tell me, how great has the Houston program looked over the last month in a half? How do you see your hero finishing out the season? Why is he doing a much worse job of coaching in his second year then he did in his first? What can he do to turn this month long skid around and get his team to perform better?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:00 pm to Tiger Ree
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But what he did in a poor conference with another coach's players is rational?
Refusing to acknowledge relative differences, it shows you are not rational.
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So of your top two choices you can't even spell one of their names correctly? And you are trying to belittle me for not wanting Herman or knowing how to evaluate coaches?
because poor spelling on a phone is not relative to the arguments. understanding how to look at an entire resume and relative differences and what level the coaches is on is important. I'm not belittling you for not wanting Herman. I am belittling your stupid and irrational arguments.
to wit:
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Even though losing to SMU at Houston is the equivalent of LSU being shut out by Vanderbilt or worse?
it is not, but carry on.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:11 pm to Tiger Ree
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Okay, so the bottom line of the matter (or thread) is you can't counter any of the facts I have posted about Herman not being fit to lead the LSU football program.
No one knows that one way or the other, there is no proof unless he is hired and does poorly, which is entirely possible, so you there no facts to dispute regarding how he'd do at LSU, just opinions, we can't respect yours because it is not based on anything rational.
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o tell me, how great has the Houston program looked over the last month in a half?
short term thinking is not rational, it is cherry picking, for the 1.5 years Herman has been there it has been pretty good overall.
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How do you see your hero finishing out the season
He's not my hero, another part or your problem is you see things only in zero sum terms, he's just a guy I think will be a very good HC down the road. However, i see UH finishing the season 9-3 at best, 8-4 at worst. Not banner worthy season but not a failure either.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
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But what he did in a poor conference with another coach's players is rational?
Refusing to acknowledge relative differences, it shows you are not rational.
What? the dude coaches in the AAC and went 13-1 in his first year with another coach's players. This year he has lost two games and will most likely lose two more. How's that for a relative difference?
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because poor spelling on a phone is not relative to the arguments. understanding how to look at an entire resume and relative differences and what level the coaches is on is important.
Your new word - relative? His entire resume as a head coach has taken a nose dive and he is coaching against less talented teams. Is that not relative?
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am belittling your stupid and irrational arguments.
My arguments have been provided by ESPN, 24/7 and the College Football Stats and History website. If looking at a teams schedule and stats is stupid and irrational, then so be it. I am stupid and irrational.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:12 pm to Tiger Ree
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Okay, so the bottom line of the matter (or thread) is you can't counter any of the facts I have posted about Herman not being fit to lead the LSU football program.
I've countered everything you've idiotically said in this.
Just because you can't comprehend it.... I can't read it for you.
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Now you are trying to steer the conversation to a debate over Houston vs LSU's histor
You're the one who tried to say that UH was equal or better than LSU. That was what YOU brought up.
There is no debate. There is a clear winner by every single logical metric. You're comparing the Patriots to the Browns.
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Yeah, just like Tiger Tracker, I know when I am slapping him around in a thread because he stops replying to me and starts giving moral support to those that are.
You so smart!!!!
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So tell me, how great has the Houston program looked over the last month in a half?
Once again, sample size. They've looked like a team that lost both their starting and backup LT with an injured QB. They look like a team that lacks depth. And yet, despite all this, they are still on track for one of their best seasons in 25 years.
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How do you see your hero finishing out the season?
Undefeated or with 1 more loss
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Why is he doing a much worse job of coaching in his second year then he did in his first?
He isn't doing a "much worse job of coaching", but you don't seem capable of actually watching.
This is what you do: if it supports your argument, you accept it. If it doesn't, you dismiss it as irrelevant.
He's 7-2 at UH coming off arguably the best season in his school's history....
Go finish coloring.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:12 pm to Tiger Ree
You should learn to have a real conversation about this. A couple of things that will help you:
1. Don't give one guy credit for something while not giving credit to a guy for the same thing.
2. Don't put words in peoples mouths. Take your time and actually read the post.
3. Try not to manipulate information to your favor. Like "In the last 4 games" but at the same time ignoring the rest of his record.
4. Acknowledge your guys failures and the other guy's accomplishments.
By failing to do all or even one of these thing, you pretty much ruin your points.
1. Don't give one guy credit for something while not giving credit to a guy for the same thing.
2. Don't put words in peoples mouths. Take your time and actually read the post.
3. Try not to manipulate information to your favor. Like "In the last 4 games" but at the same time ignoring the rest of his record.
4. Acknowledge your guys failures and the other guy's accomplishments.
By failing to do all or even one of these thing, you pretty much ruin your points.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:14 pm to Tiger Ree
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Yeah, just like Tiger Tracker, I know when I am slapping him around in a thread because he stops replying to me and starts giving moral support to those that are.
FYI: I don't bother to argue with you because i know your shtick. Why bother trying to convince someone of something when said person is laughed at by 99% of this board?
I mean people want you banned. That's how idiotic your posts are. They believe you must be a troll because no one could really be this stupid. I hope you are a troll because if you truly believe what you are typing it's pretty damn sad and pathetic.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:14 pm to Jeff Goldblum
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Great post. Tom Herrman is greatly overrated. He's perfect for Texas.
I agree. it's just too risky of a move. I would rather have fisher if he retains aranda or even O if he brings in an offensive mind for OC and hires a new OL coach
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:16 pm to H-Town Tiger
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finishing the season 9-3 at best, 8-4 at worst. Not banner worthy season but not a failure either.
And this guy should lead the LSU program program? A program who fired a coach who lost three games last year in the SEC and to two top 10 teams this year?
He's not playing against SEC teams. He is playing against teams who don't have the talent he does.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:19 pm to Tiger Ree
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I am stupid and irrational.
-Tiger Ree
That's all we needed to hear.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:19 pm to Tiger Ree
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A program who fired a coach who lost three games last year in the SEC and to two top 10 teams this year?
Considering why Miles was fired, it's rather amusing that you have yet to show any criticism for the guy that you want to have the job considering what has transpired this past weekend.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:20 pm to Tiger Ree
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Refusing to acknowledge relative differences, it shows you are not rational.
What? the dude coaches in the AAC and went 13-1 in his first year with another coach's players
you are just proving my point.
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Your new word - relative? His entire resume as a head coach has taken a nose dive and he is coaching against less talented teams. Is that not relative?
and again, proving you have no idea what you are talking about.
The AAC is a 2nd tier conference RELATIVE to the SEC, that is true. For Houston, it is their level. so how he does there is important, not how the conference or the teams he plays rank next to the SEC. He won it last year.
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His entire resume as a head coach has taken a nose dive and he is coaching against less talented teams. Is that not relative?
He's lost 2 games the only place his resume is taking a nose dive is with idiots like you. Everyone loses to less talented teams at some point, the point that eludes is those teams are closer to his level. (spare me the meaningless 247 talent "rankings") that;s the relative part, you just belittle them based on their name and apparently support a guy that was 10-28 as a HC because that was a long time ago.
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My arguments have been provided by ESPN, 24/7 and the College Football Stats and History website. If looking at a teams schedule and stats is stupid and irrational, then so be it
no, the information -your provided is from those sites, you just either don't know how or refuse to learn how to analyze it.
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I am stupid and irrational.
finally the truth
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:23 pm to TigerBait1127
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And yet, despite all this, they are still on track for one of their best seasons in 25 years.
It's already guaranteed to be worse than last year's season.
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He isn't doing a "much worse job of coaching", but you don't seem capable of actually watching.
I'm not watching Cougar High play football. Unless they are on Thursday or Friday night when there is no better games on. I don't watch Connecticut or Tulsa play either.
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He's 7-2 at UH coming off arguably the best season in his school's history....
I can't even remember right now, but either Briles or Sumlin was also 13-1. I think it was Sumlin. So yes it is arguable at best.
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