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re: FACTS: LSU v Houston

Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66483 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:01 pm to
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What the frick does it matter to you who I would rather have than a coach who's program is going to shite?


Because this is a board to discuss coaching candidates.

Maybe you have a good argument for someone else. I don't think you do, because you you generally only show up to point out 4 out of 23 of Herman's games. But maybe I am wrong.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:01 pm to
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and for the billionth time UH is not the same as LSU. UConn is to UH or close to it, what Ole Miss is to LSU.


this is how they are currently ranked on 24/7.

#52 Houston
#87 Connecticut

https://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:03 pm to
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Last year was their first top 10 finish since 1979


Last year, with the previous coach's players. How is he going to finish this year? His second year in the program.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:04 pm to
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Last year, with the previous coach's players.




Are you 12?

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How is he going to finish this year? His second year in the program.


He's on pace to have one the best years in their program's history THIS YEAR

But hey, nice 4 game sample you're trying to take. Love the consistency of your windows.


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Besides NC's Houston actually is on par or better than LSU.




This is literally the dumbest thing ever posted on any board. I'm just shocked.

Let this sink in: LSU has played in more national title games since 2000 than UH has finished in the top 25 in the last 25 years.

And for your awards BS, they've had ZERO consensus all americans since their Heisman trophy winner in 1989.

For comparison, LSU had 3 players on the 1st team all-pro list last year and 14 consensus all americans since 1990
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:04 pm to
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There are a lot of coaches out there with more experience than Herman that LSU can look at.


this is one of the few things he's said that makes any sense, but he ruins it with stuff like this:

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guy who has coached for less than two years in a little league and has seen his team go to shite


I don't know a single person that wants Herman that says he's the only guy LSU should look at. His lack of experience is his biggest negative, so i can get why rational people might be skeptical, though it seems that most vociferous anti-Herman people are like this guy and seem unhinged and can't make a rational argument, looking at single games is beyond stupid.


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Name them.
Seriously name like 3 candidates you would prefer to Herman


Petrino and Chris Peterson would be my top 2 choices all things being equal. However, most reports seem to think Peterson will not leave the PacNW and I don't think LSU will hire Petrino due to his off the field issues and his large buyout. That leaves Fisher, who I'd be fine with, but he will also be expensive and may not leave. So, that leaves me with take a flyer on some upcomers and i'd go with Herman over Fleck, and MacIntyre at CU.

ETA: besides those 6 there are probably 20 more I'd take over Ogereon.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:11 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:09 pm to
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this is how they are currently ranked on 24/7.

#52 Houston
#87 Connecticut




and as i explained to you before, the gap from 51-87 is not as large as the gap between the top 5-10 to 35-40.

What was the gap between 2000 LSU and UAB? 1 game doesn't define a coach. That you insist on bringing that up just futher proves you have no idea what you are talking about
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:19 pm to
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anti-Herman people are like this guy and seem unhinged and can't make a rational argument, looking at single games is beyond stupid.


When is biggest accomplishment is what he did under a head coach who has won multiple championships without him? That's not rational. But what he did in a poor conference with another coach's players is rational?

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Petrino and Chris Peterson would be my top 2 choices


So of your top two choices you can't even spell one of their names correctly? And you are trying to belittle me for not wanting Herman or knowing how to evaluate coaches?

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i'd go with Herman


No shite, huh? Even though losing to SMU at Houston is the equivalent of LSU being shut out by Vanderbilt or worse?

Are you a LSU fan?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:21 pm to
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When is biggest accomplishment is what he did under a head coach who has won multiple championships without him? That's not rational. But what he did in a poor conference with another coach's players is rational?


wow

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Even though losing to SMU at Houston is the equivalent of LSU being shut out by Vanderbilt or worse?




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Are you a LSU fan?



Tell me more about how UH is a better program than LSU
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:21 pm to
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What was the gap between 2000 LSU and UAB? 1 game doesn't define a coach. That you insist on bringing that up just futher proves you have no idea what you are talking about


WTF does UAB have to do with anything? LSU losing to UAB in Saban's first year before he had his players and system installed, should in NO way be compared to Herman losing to SMU while gaining 303 total offensive yards in his second season.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:24 pm to
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WTF does UAB have to do with anything? LSU losing to UAB in Saban's first year before he had his players and system installed, should in NO way be compared to Herman losing to SMU while gaining 303 total offensive yards in his second season.





How about Saban going 6-6 in his 2nd year at MSU while losing to 5-6 Louisville at home
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:25 pm to
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Tell me more about how UH is a better program than LSU


Houston is not a better program than LSU currently. Houston is a much better (based on talent) program than Navy, Tulsa, SMU and UCF. Does that not concern you? You want a guy who loses to lesser talented teams to lead the LSU football program?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:28 pm to
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Houston is a much better (based on talent) program than Navy, Tulsa, SMU and UCF


And what are you basing their talent off of?

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You want a guy who loses to lesser talented teams to lead the LSU football program?


Every coach to ever exist has lost to less talented teams. I'd take Pete Carrol in a fricking heartbeat.

Remember when he lost as 28 point favorites? I'd take Nick Saban, and he's lost plenty of those in his career.

I'd take Urban Meyer, who's lost more than his fair share.

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Houston is not a better program than LSU currently.


Or historically. Or by any metric. You're an idiot.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:31 pm
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:30 pm to
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Every coach to ever exist has lost to less talented teams.



I mean, there is an active SEC Coach in the league that once got 'Croomed'.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:32 pm to
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Besides NC's Houston actually is on par or better than LSU.


This is literally the dumbest thing ever posted on any board. I'm just shocked.


Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:36 pm to
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And what are you basing their talent off of?


https://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite

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Or historically. Or by any metric. You're an idiot.


Well, like the last guy I challenged. Show me the hall of fame coaches, heisman trophy winners and Maxwell or whatever the top QB award is of both teams. If you aren't too disappointed like the last guy post your results. I await your reply.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:37 pm to
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Well, like the last guy I challenged. Show me the hall of fame coaches, heisman trophy winners and Maxwell or whatever the top QB award is of both teams. If you aren't too disappointed like the last guy post your results. I await your reply.


I already responded to this absolutely retarded comment.

They have 7 consensus all Americans all time. They haven't had one in 25 years. fricking QB awards? Who gives a shite?

Seriously, how old are you?

[quote]LINK ]

SINCE 2000



And you can thank Herman's 1 year of recruiting for that ranking. True freshman.....
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:39 pm to
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take Pete Carrol
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I'd take Nick Saban
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I'd take Urban Meyer


Who wouldn't? But, you are only in this thread because you want to hire a guy who has coached less than two years in the AAC. For two years getting beat by THREE shitty teams is really an accomplishment to be proud of.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35263 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:40 pm to
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So fricking what? Yes I am biased against LSU hiring a guy who has coached a minor league team for less than two seasons. A guy who this season is doing worse than last season. A guy who IS coaching with another coach's players.

I have been a LSU fan since before I was born and didn't even know it. I am not in favor of hiring a guy who's biggest accomplishment is winning one game as OC under another coach who probably would have won the game anyway.
You still have not said who your guy is. I can't wait to look at what he's accomplished. I bet it's O isn't it? Oh please be O.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:41 pm to
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Who wouldn't? But, you are only in this thread because you want to hire a guy who has coached less than two years in the AAC. For two years getting beat by THREE shitty teams is really an accomplishment to be proud of.



The point

Your head

Now try to read it again and come up with a response
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:42 pm to
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They have 7 consensus all Americans all time. They haven't had one in 25 years. fricking QB awards? Who gives a shite?


So the QB and coaching awards don't matter. That's how you make your point by throwing out pertinent information related to the two programs and say "who gives a shite"?
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