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re: FACTS: LSU v Houston
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:02 pm to Tiger Tracker
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:02 pm to Tiger Tracker
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quote: Urban Meyer and the Ohio State Buckeyes beat Alabama. Sorry coordinators don't get credits for wins and losses.
Says the guy who posts about Coach O's national championship rings...lmao. you're consistent if nothing else
I did not say coach o gets credit for all of the Miami and USC wins or championships (unlike Hermster fans). I simply stated that he has four NC rings.
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Since all you do is take shots at Herman, I'm not sure who you like, but i'm willing to bet i can find a bad loss or 2 on his resume.
Okay, Les Miles in his twelve years at LSU. Find his horrible losses.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:06 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That you keep bringing this shows you really have no clue how to evaluate a coach
I think Herman is unfit to be the HC at LSU because he took a much more talented team and lost to the likes of Navy and SMU, so that means I have no clue how to evaluate a coach?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:08 pm to BornKjun
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Herman's record so far is mixed. Even in a strong year last year, Houston lost to UCONN. This year has clearly been a disappointment. They beat Oklahoma but Oklahoma's defense is not strong at all.
He's at f'in Houston, man. Come on -- this is a place that is winning on coaching alone. And he's the reason. Just like we say the talent here at LSU gets you 5-7 wins a year, the talent at Houston gets you maybe 2. So to win 6-8-10 games at Houston = great coaching.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:10 pm to SammyTiger
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Alabama (4x)
UCLA
Notre Dame
Mississippi State (3x)
Auburn (3x)
Arkansas (3x)
Georgia (2x)
Florida
Vanderbilt (2x)
Missouri (2x)
Kentucky
Wake Forest
Tennessee
Wyoming
Oh, so what happened last decade matters more than the last four games? Hire Herman even though he has gone 2-2 against the last four shitty teams he has faced. Don't hire O because he lost games 10 years ago. Is that what your saying?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:11 pm to Tiger Tracker
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You can find way more than 2. His guy is Coach O.
is suspected that but wasn't sure.
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this post should tell you all you need to know about his logic when evaluating HCs for the LSU position.
Haha, thanks. Anyone that evaluates a coach based on single games and somehow thinks UH losing to Navy is some disaterous, unforgivable loss and talks about 2nd tier conferences being crap, as if the teams in there aren't peers, clearly has no idea what he's talking about and/or is just in the tank for his guy, which considering his guys resume is even more comical.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:13 pm to Tiger Ree
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I think Herman is unfit to be the HC at LSU because he took a much more talented team and lost to the likes of Navy and SMU, so that means I have no clue how to evaluate a coach?
If that is reasoning, then, no you don't know how to evaluate a coach, sorry
ETA: here's more proof;
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so what happened last decade matters more than the last four games?
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:14 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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He's at f'in Houston, man. Come on -- this is a place that is winning on coaching alone. And he's the reason. Just like we say the talent here at LSU gets you 5-7 wins a year, the talent at Houston gets you maybe 2. So to win 6-8-10 games at Houston = great coaching.
Kevin Sumlin and Art Briles say "WTF???"
The last coach at Houston was fired after back-to-back 8-5 seasons. Besides NC's Houston actually is on par or better than LSU. That includes two head coaches that were inducted into the college football hall of fame and heisman trophy and other award winning players.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:20 pm to Tiger Ree
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Les Miles in his twelve years at LSU. Find his horrible losses.
He lost 17-0 to an Arkansas team that was 0-14 in the SEC. He also lost to an OM team that was banged up in 2013. I also said on his resume not necessarily at every stop and at OSU he lost to So Miss and La Tech. Again all coaches lose games, the entire resume needs to be looked at which seems to be something you are either too dishonest or dim to do.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:27 pm to Tiger Ree
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Oh, so what happened last decade matters more than the last four games?
I am saying your body of work is more important than your last 4 games
100% I am saying that and I am 100% right.
Its fricking stupid to think otherwise.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
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entire resume needs to be looked at
No problem, Herm's entire resume as a head coach includes three losses to teams who had much less talent than his. He gained 303 total yards against SMU. The same SMU that just lost 51-7.
I agree with the entire resume thing. But, I also think what they are doing right now outweighs what happened years ago in the past.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:28 pm to H-Town Tiger
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He also lost to an OM team that was banged up in 2013.
Not the same as losing to UCONN (I didn't even realize they had a football team) and SMU.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:31 pm to Tiger Ree
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No problem, Herm's entire resume as a head coach includes three losses to teams who had much less talent than his. He gained 303 total yards against SMU. The same SMU that just lost 51-7.
You seem to be ignoring a 5-0 record vs ranked teams and 20 wins. Including beating FSU and Oklahoma
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But, I also think what they are doing right now outweighs what happened years ago in the past.
What is O doing right now that is so fricking impressive? beating the 2 worst teams in the SEC and a 5-4 Southern Miss? Getting blanked by Alabama?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:32 pm to SammyTiger
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I am saying your body of work is more important than your last 4 games
100% I am saying that and I am 100% right.
Its fricking stupid to think otherwise.
A coach won't be fired for what he did 10 years ago. A coach will get fired for what he has done in the current season. A guy that wins more games with the previous staff's players than his own will get the boot.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:33 pm to Tiger Ree
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A guy that wins more games with the previous staff's players than his own will get the boot.
so say a coach who is 9-3 as an interim coach but 10-25 with his own team?
Also Ed Orgeron isn't looking to not get fired.
He is looking to get hired. he isn't our HC he is our Interim HC. He need to earn the job, not just not get fired.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:33 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:Yes. Let's blame Herman for all of the failures at Houston and give credit to someone else for all of the success. It's like the reverse of what the pro O people do to defend O.
That probably has a lot to do with Ed Oliver. The 5-star D-line whose brother was on the Houston team already and high-school coach was hired by the Hermster. I wouldn't exactly call that great recruiting.
quote:Huh? Does he not have a ring? Was he not a part of the Buckeyes?
Urban Meyer and the Ohio State Buckeyes beat Alabama. Sorry coordinators don't get credits for wins and losses.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:34 pm to SammyTiger
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What is O doing right now that is so fricking impressive? beating the 2 worst teams in the SEC and a 5-4 Southern Miss? Getting blanked by Alabama?
I am not saying coach O should be hired. I am saying Herman when the season is over shouldn't even get an interview to lead the LSU program.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:35 pm to Tiger Ree
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I am saying Herman when the season is over shouldn't even get an interview to lead the LSU program.
Who should then?
Seriously
Who the frick should?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:36 pm to Tiger Ree
Coach O's only ft hc record at Ole Miss far outweights his current interim hc records. As an interim coach he does not coach his own players. O needs to prove he can coach with his own players and staff at another mid major school.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:37 pm to abellsujr
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Yes. Let's blame Herman for all of the failures at Houston.
Is Herman not the head coach at Houston? I blame it all on the fricking waterboy. That sumbitch is not doing his job and causing the team to lose. Only thing it could possibly be.
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