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re: Coaching timelines and Ponamsky calls Brady about OC search

Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:12 am to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69693 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:12 am to
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He's not going to evaluate the candidate's ability himself.


That’s what the interview process is for...have you ever worked in your life? That’s how the world works...ask experts for recommendations, hold interviews, and pick the best fit...
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
6007 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:21 am to
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"Joe, who can run your offense?" Orgeron said Ponamsky asked Brady. "And he recommended me two guys, and they're here with me today."


Hmm.. Pretty sure O made it clear in the past Ensminger was the OC, not Brady ... interesting...
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:21 am to
Is anyone surprised orgeron is so immature as to have his flunky call Brady?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32625 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:22 am to
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they called brady for his recommendations on who could run his offens


So i guess we can stop the charade that 2019 was Ensminger's offense mixed in with Brady. It was seemingly all Brady.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:23 am to
You sound like a plant baw who has never hired someone in his life.

There is nothing wrong with getting advice or recommendations from someone you trust. I do it. Everyone who hires does it.

You then take those recommendations and do your own research and interviews.

These guys on both offense and defense have likely already gone through multiple Zoom interviews and other due diligence processes. The in-person interviews are to solidify and confirm your thoughts and feelings regarding the person.

I see nothing wrong with anything Orgeron said.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
83340 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:27 am to
With your job on the line, you wouldnt want to ask brady some screening questions about the guys he recommends? Talk to him one and one and get the specific pros and cons of each one? You can do it through another person, but i find you get more thought out responses and less gets lost in translation when you do things yourself. Specifically, something this important
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21190 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:30 am to
Good point. Too busy to pick up the phone to call Brady like WTF. Brady won that moron the Powerball.
Posted by AcetylCoA
Pasadena, California
Member since Nov 2009
2692 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:30 am to
Or you could fly them in and interview them like Coach O is doing.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
83340 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:35 am to
Interviews are great, but people interview well all the time. Getting detailed reference, more than just a list, also helps
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:35 am to
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With your job on the line, you wouldnt want to ask brady some screening questions about the guys he recommends? Talk to him one and one and get the specific pros and cons of each one? You can do it through another person, but i find you get more thought out responses and less gets lost in translation when you do things yourself. Specifically, something this important


How do you know he didn't? You are taking one comment and painting an elaborate picture with it. Maybe Brady provided a detailed analysis of each coach he was recommending? Maybe lots of different shite happened.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:37 am to
I thought it was Ensmingers offense??? Lol
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:44 am to
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I thought it was Ensmingers offense??? Lol


LITERALLY no one has ever said that. There has certainly been a lot of debate over play calling responsibilities, but it was Joe Brady's offense.

I don't think that's every been in doubt. Orgeron stated from Day 1 that Brady was brought in to implement his offense. There are Ensminger quotes about Brady implementing his offense.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16419 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:47 am to
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Orgeron said Derek Ponamsky, LSU's special assistant to Orgeron, has been in contact with Brady during the search, hoping to find candidates who can replicate the schemes they ran when the Tigers won the program's fourth national championship.

"Joe, who can run your offense?" Orgeron said Ponamsky asked Brady. "And he recommended me two guys, and they're here with me today."



I have a feeling that this going to turn into a cluster frick if we are trying to find someone to run Brady's exact offense instead of allowing someone to come in and give them the ability to design an offense based on their own knowledge, skillset, and offensive talent
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38687 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:50 am to
You realize he said Derek had most of the conversations, not all of them right?

Some of yall need to get off the phone and get back to building the scaffolding before someone in admin runs yall off. Stick to what yall know and hiring isn't it.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69693 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:56 am to
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I thought it was Ensmingers offense??? Lol


No one ever said it was E’s offense. Coach O has said repeatedly that Brady brought in the Saints’ offense.

Once he brought in his system, Brady, Burrow, E, Mangas, Munoz, etc. all collaborated and supplemented the offense with plays. They kept what worked, dumped what didn’t.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46437 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:58 am to
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Because he doesn't know what to ask. He's going to hire them solely because someone else said they are good. So if they can talk the talk and dangle something shiny in the interview, O is going to bite. Because he's doesn't have the knowledge to evaluate their offensive knowledge.


Ummm... he’s bringing those candidates in for an interview to... evaluate and ask them questions.

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Our head coach is so clueless about the offense he wants to run that he is going to swallow whole the recommendation of the guy who used to run it. He's not going to evaluate the candidate's ability himself. Because he doesn't know what to ask. He's going to hire them solely because someone else said they are good.

You invented all this.

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What other coach in D1 football is utterly so incompetent at Xs and O's that he has to rely exclusively on the opinions of others to tell him who to hire?

Nevermind. You’re obviously retarded.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:08 pm to
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No one ever said it was E’s offense


bullshite. All the Ensminger sunshine pumpers told us before the season started that we would see no offensive coaching drop off because the OC was still here. The Ensminger crew has always said it was his offense and Brady helped.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:13 pm to
You are arguing two totally different things.

Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:15 pm to
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The Ensminger crew has always said it was his offense and Brady helped.

Anyone who said this is a moron and you're a moron for giving it any credence. Even the most sun shiniest pumper of them all, Pirate King, wouldn't have thought this.
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