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Choice is simple
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:46 pm
You either totally trust BK to make all the football decisions or you don’t. I do.
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:48 pm to Koplan16
We’re getting exactly what needed to happen. I don’t know why people expected us to just get rid of special Ed and keep everyone that he hired.. not how it happens.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:48 pm to Koplan16
I agree with ya baw.
And thanks for the update.
And thanks for the update.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:50 pm to Koplan16
You can trust him and still not like a certain hire.
It's not like every coach is going to work out.
It's not like every coach is going to work out.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:50 pm to Koplan16
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You either totally trust BK to make all the football decisions or you don’t. I do.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:58 pm to Chalkywhite84
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You can trust him and still not like a certain hire.
It's not like every coach is going to work out.
I have no issue with people being concerned about losing Raymond. I have no issue with wondering how much Cooks adds to the staff. I do have an issue with people judging those decisions without knowing the entire context (why Raymond left, what position Cooks will coach, how do they fit with the remainder of the staff that’s yet to be announced, etc.) I also have a problem with random guys on the internet thinking they know better than Kelly who is or is not a good coach. That’s not what I would call trusting Kelly. Let’s at least wait for the finished product before casting judgment.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:27 pm to Chalkywhite84
Exactly but people on this board will just follow everything blindly
Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:29 pm to MikeTheTiger71
quote:That's fine... but the whole kneejerk reaction thing cuts both ways. Assuming and going bat shite crazy because they think Cooks will NOT be an on-field coach is just as applicable to the ones that assume he is. Here's a response to Chalky (I think):
I have no issue with people being concerned about losing Raymond. I have no issue with wondering how much Cooks adds to the staff. I do have an issue with people judging those decisions without knowing the entire context (why Raymond left, what position Cooks will coach, how do they fit with the remainder of the staff that’s yet to be announced, etc.) I also have a problem with random guys on the internet thinking they know better than Kelly who is or is not a good coach. That’s not what I would call trusting Kelly. Let’s at least wait for the finished product before casting judgment.
quote:They shouldn't be ripping on posters when they don't know either.
COOKS IS NOT THE DB COACH!...
In fact, it's pretty logical to assume (I'm talking yesterday afternoon) that Cooks was going to be an on-field coach because he had coached DBs AND co-DC directly for Kelly before with coaching Ss at other stops. The idea that he would remain an analyst with that history and when we know Raymond is gone (prior to knowing his pay) is a pretty good educated guess. To assume he would stay an analyst with under those circumstances is the illogical assumption. Yet, the one's who made the illogical assumption are/were all over this board ripping into the ones who made the educated guess.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:31 pm to Koplan16
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You either totally trust BK to make all the football decisions or you don’t. I do.
Can we let a season or two play out before we draw lines on if we are pro-kelly or anti-kelly?
Blindly believing one or the other this early seems a bit rash.
He wasn't my first choice when we fired O, but I'll go in with an open mind and see how I'm feeling once the "new car smell" goes away.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:24 pm to MikeTheTiger71
quote]I have no issue with people being concerned about losing Raymond. I have no issue with wondering how much Cooks adds to the staff. I do have an issue with people judging those decisions without knowing the entire context (why Raymond left, what position Cooks will coach, how do they fit with the remainder of the staff that’s yet to be announced, etc.) I also have a problem with random guys on the internet thinking they know better than Kelly who is or is not a good coach. That’s not what I would call trusting Kelly. Let’s at least wait for the finished product before casting judgment.
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Hammer meet nail. Well done
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Hammer meet nail. Well done
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:29 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Alabama has as close knit winning program and where’s the Ex players Coaching there I think will be OK
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:31 pm to Chalkywhite84
I agree. I want what I want, and yes, winning is most important; but my greatest concern will always be a boring offense, one that keeps too many talented athletes on the bench when more should be out there SPREADING the field to the absolute maximum possible. Until I can see with my own eyes what Kelly and his OC are doing on offense, the jury's still out for me.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:35 pm to Koplan16
I trust him. I still like picking things apart, while fully aware that I'm unqualified to do so. At the end of the day, I support things and want a positive outcome.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:37 pm to Koplan16
This fan base wanted CEO, the OC and the DC all fired and replaced. No more.
Well, this is renovation project... this is a demolition project.
Well, this is renovation project... this is a demolition project.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:04 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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how do they fit with the remainder of the staff that’s yet to be announced,
Yeah, it’s not as simple as, “he was at Texas Tech and they didn’t have good safeties.” Hopefully we already have better players and can manage better recruits and a better coaching staff than they did. It can make a huge difference in whether he will succeed.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:12 pm to Broski
“Can we let a season or two play out before we draw lines on if we are pro-kelly or anti-kelly?”
No we can’t. Woody guaranteed BK $95 million. Woody crowned him. Just like he did Jimbo. How’s that working out?
No we can’t. Woody guaranteed BK $95 million. Woody crowned him. Just like he did Jimbo. How’s that working out?
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:38 pm to I20goon
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They shouldn't be ripping on posters when they don't know either.
I agree there were a few posters who were just as wrong in their insistence that Cooks would just be an analyst. Most people disagreeing with him were simply stating that we don’t know what position he will take. It’s clear now analyst is not one of the possibilities, but it wasn’t then. It’s still not clear if he will coach safeties, CBs, all DBs or even remotely some other position. More than likely he won’t be THE DB coach. He’ll probably be one of two since that is how Kelly has constructed his staff previously. None of that tells us he’s a direct replacement for Raymond. He easily could have been hired to coach safeties even if Raymond stayed.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:54 pm to hedgehog
To be fair, BK didn’t leave a dumpster fire to get his big pay day! Jimbo, well he destroyed FSU on his way out. That alone would have scared me away from him. They were no better than LSU this past season.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:05 pm to Koplan16
Trust is earned and he hasn’t coached a single game at LSU
I have faith, but I don’t like allowing Raymond to bounce for UF of all places. We play them every goddamn year and they tend to attract good DBs
Raymond will poach talent from our backyard. Count in it
Give me all the downvotes
I have faith, but I don’t like allowing Raymond to bounce for UF of all places. We play them every goddamn year and they tend to attract good DBs
Raymond will poach talent from our backyard. Count in it
Give me all the downvotes
Posted on 12/9/21 at 10:08 pm to Broski
quote:
Can we let a season or two play out before we draw lines on if we are pro-kelly or anti-kelly?
Blindly believing one or the other this early seems a bit rash.
He wasn't my first choice when we fired O, but I'll go in with an open mind and see how I'm feeling once the "new car smell" goes away.
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