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re: Carolina has had the worst coaching search in CFB history

Posted on 12/6/15 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
21082 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 1:42 pm to
Are you kidding me?

Auburn got rid of one of the most successful coaches in its history to hire Gene Chizik, who at the time was 5-19 at Iowa State with a plethora of evidence out there concerning his complete incompetence at being a head coach.

Will Muschamp at least had an 11 win season. He at least has a history of producing tough defenses. He has a history of being a good recruiter.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 1:51 pm to
Let's not forget that USCe hasn't exactly been a huge coaching draw and football school. Coming to the SEC and hiring Holtz (even past his prime) helped make USCe a more appealing place. Spurrier, his success, and recent NFL guys have vaulted the program to where they've never been before.

Muschamp is a decent get for them and hopefully he learned and will adapt more as a HC. He needs strong offensive coaches and talent evaluators on his staff and can be successful. He does need to take notes from Saban and calm the frick down though.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
9294 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

We weren't going with a retread head coach again


Isn't this exactly what he his???
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
6432 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 2:12 pm to
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(which had to be a factor in Georgia's decision)




uh no. had nothing to do with Richt's firing but keep telling your delusional self that.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141237 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 2:15 pm to
I think the LSU debacle was worse, and they had a coach.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 2:33 pm to
Yeah, I don't know why they didn't just pull a 2006 Alabama and wait for the end of the NFL season to see if they could get Bill O'Brien or Chip or another NFL head coach on the hot seat. It would have been better to roll the dice instead of settling for Muschamp.
Posted by bgtiger
SOLA
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 6:02 pm to
Alabama didn't really wait until after the NFL season
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56719 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 6:43 pm to
Waited until the end of the season


I guess that's one way to remember it.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 6:44 pm to
But the assistant coach search is going well.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 6:57 pm to
Nm wrong board
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12809 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 7:10 pm to
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Muschamp is a decent get for them and hopefully he learned and will adapt more as a HC. He needs strong offensive coaches and talent evaluators on his staff and can be successful.


Apparently he hasn't because he's bringing in Roper as his OC.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
16147 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 7:16 pm to
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Apparently he hasn't because he's bringing in Roper as his OC.



Treon Harris looks like he is the problem with UF offenses.

Roper was only there for the 2014 season and yet he did better Had Harris performing better as a true freshman then McElwain has him performing as a returning starter

quote:

"Looking back at how Kurt Roper's offense was with Treon Harris at starting quarterback, it was far more productive than McElwain's offense with the same starting quarterback and an extra year of experience. Below are the scores from the last two years of Florida when Treon Harris was the starting QB.

2014:

UGA W 38-20
@Vandy W 34-10
USC L 23-20
Eastern Kentucky W 52-3
@FSU L 24-19

Average under Roper: 32.6 ppg

2015:
@LSU L 35-28
UGA W 27-3
Vandy W 9-7
@ USC W 24-14
FAU W 20-14
FSU L 27-2

Average under McElwain: 18.3 ppg

We can all agree that Jim McElwain is a great offensive coach, and my point is not to doubt that he is. But it is to say that Kurt Roper put up significantly better numbers with the same QB and players around him against essentially the same teams."
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 7:41 pm to
People shite all over Roper when we were searching (and we got fricking Brian Schottenheimer, whatever, got us a new HC) but I really liked the guy. I am with you, I think he is a decent OC that was really set back by their lack of talent on offense.

Now, I still think this was a shite hire and that USC blew this entire thing (also, come one, UGA moved because SCar was going after Kirby? haaaaaa) but I do think that Roper is a good coordinator.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:50 pm to
The 2014 OL had 4 draft picks, and Matt Jones. Treon was the exact same last year as he. is this year. The OL this year has started 3 freshman, a former DT and Mason Halter on it. Roper had better personnel to work with even in Driskel.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:58 am to
so much fear up in here.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:31 am to
Nope

1) Auburn 2003, 2008
2) Texas 2013
3) LSU 2015
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6354 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:09 am to
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Then all that D talent Muschamp left at UF carried them to the SECCG.

QB issues were Muschamp's problem at UF. He had a decent one stashed away in Grier, but Grier needed rounds to gain weight


He also hadn't been tainted by Muschamp and his staff yet.

Over 4 years Muschamp had a ton of highly rated QB's and failed to develop an offense around each and every one of them.
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 11:15 am
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
44433 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:53 pm to
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But, but , but Spurrier quitting on them mid season was going to give them a head start over everyone else in finding a head coach


But but but if you are blind and ignorant as to what transpired after Spurrier resigned then you're just blind and ignorant.

Here, allow me to try to explain it to your dumb arse.

Spurrier retires .... - Herman, Fuente, Kirby - Herman jumps on board and is ready to talk, Fuente does not vet-out, no SEC school will touch him, -- LSU feigns firing Les, Herman balks, we move to Kirby --- Kirby begins talks with UGA in early November, Herman is now looking at maybe getting a shot at LSU OR FSU ---- Jimbo says he is not leaving FSU, Les goes on PR campaign, we're still talking to Herman, now it's Herman and Muschamp ----- Herman gets pissed about a leak in our process, Muschamp starts sending more overtures, by this time we have two dozen apps for the job, we lose to The Citadel, Herman is worried now and the next day he announces he is withdrawing his name from consideration ... everything slows down here. Lincoln Riley calls, they talk. Kid is too young, we move on. Tanner has to decide to focus on Muschamp or look at some of the other apps that have been faxed-in. He decides to talk to Rich Rod, never offers, keeps thinking back to all the times he has spoken to Muschamp over the years ... likes the guy. Makes a few calls, talks to Muschamp again. Starts leaning towards Muschamp a week ago - calls him again late Wednesday night and has another two hour conversation, basically decides on Muschamp at that time but has committed to two interviews and is advised he has to allow them because of state EEOC laws .... calls Muschamp on Thursday to let him know the interviews are a formality. Muschamp starts calling potential staff. We make it official with Muschamp early Saturday morning with a call telling him he is hired ... Rich Rod lies his arse off and claims he was offered Saturday afternoon but turned down the job. AZ AD has to cover his arse because he has a coach no one wants, who has been out there trying to find another job ... so he claims Rich Rod was offered to save face.

We make the Muschamp hire official today.

Anyone, anyone who cannot understand the process that took place is an idiot ... plain and simple. A fricktarded idiot.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12473 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 5:29 pm to
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Carolina has had the worst coaching search in CFB history

USCw disagrees
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