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re: Aranda is seriously lacking in recruiting
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:09 pm to Tiger in NY
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:09 pm to Tiger in NY
Agreed
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:10 pm to Maximus
Donnie Alexander GOAT
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:15 pm to OKtiger
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He pulled Cam Robinson and Hootie Jones in Louisiana..
So we can look at recruits as non-HC or are you making those rules just for Aranda?
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:17 pm to OKtiger
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finishing 20-15 at LSU will not lead to success
Since he's recruiting at slightly above Baylor's historical norms, why are you projecting him to recruit at LSU's worst rate in the modern LSU era?
Should you be projecting him around LSU's historical average, given what he's done at Baylor?
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:41 pm to OKtiger
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Again, I’m not arguing that. Dave just does not come off as someone who would be committed to NIL innovation/recruiting
That’s a big red flag
This shite is so funny, you are literally just making shite up.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:44 pm to rutiger
Aranda is one of the smartest coaches in CFB with lots of SEC and Big10 experience, so I'm sure he doesn't understand how important recruiting is.
You have to be a major (and I mean historic) a-hole to not understand that. Like Dan Mullen. Aranda is clearly no Mullen
You have to be a major (and I mean historic) a-hole to not understand that. Like Dan Mullen. Aranda is clearly no Mullen
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:50 pm to whitefoot
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It's freaking Baylor for crying out loud, in Waco, Texas. It's not like they routinely recruit in the top 20
I stated as much in my post and you left it out. There are no perfect candidates. The most glaring concern with Aranda would be his ability to keep up in the SEC recruiting arms race. Maybe he could but it is a concern. He won the game today with 15 seniors recruited by Rhule.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:54 pm to OKtiger
quote:And you are going to give him the credit for that when he had Saban, a giant recruiting infrastructure, and the REC helping?
He pulled Cam Robinson and Hootie Jones in Louisiana.. I know Jones didn’t pan out but, it’s fricking dumb to say he “hasn’t been recruiting against elite guys” and just fricking ignore his days at Alabama
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:55 pm to OKtiger
Where do people get this shite from?
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:56 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Florida and lsu recruited the wrong type of guys last few years. Me first players wont ever win in a team game
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:56 pm to OKtiger
my concern as well
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:58 pm to Imber
The portal is about to become as important as high school recruiting and there aren't many coaches I trust more to scout the portal and seal the deal over Aranda. High schoolers may enjoy the BS used car salesman stuff but guys with skins on the wall want different pitches. I fully trust Aranda to be elite at that (with coaching/drafting skins on the wall for reinforcement).
Guys like Raymond and Joseph will handle the high school stuff as primary guys. Aranda as HC will be more of an overseer. He'll definitely need some ace recruiters but who doesn't?
The SEC has more failed recruiter first HCs recently than good coaches. Hell even Kirby is lacking in trophies and he's the 2nd best recruiting HC in all of CFB.
Guys like Raymond and Joseph will handle the high school stuff as primary guys. Aranda as HC will be more of an overseer. He'll definitely need some ace recruiters but who doesn't?
The SEC has more failed recruiter first HCs recently than good coaches. Hell even Kirby is lacking in trophies and he's the 2nd best recruiting HC in all of CFB.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 4:02 pm to OKtiger
You know so much that you root root root for the cubs
Posted on 11/13/21 at 4:07 pm to OKtiger
Changing the subject
Which is can’t recruit or not in tune to nil
That’s what loser’s do change the subject
Obviously you are of the same intelligence level as Harry Carey
Which is can’t recruit or not in tune to nil
That’s what loser’s do change the subject
Obviously you are of the same intelligence level as Harry Carey
Posted on 11/13/21 at 4:07 pm to Imber
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I stated as much in my post and you left it out
You seemed to dismiss that it was Baylor pretty easily. He's recruiting on the same level, ranking-wise as Rhule.
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The most glaring concern with Aranda would be his ability to keep up in the SEC recruiting arms race
I agree with this, but outside of Jimbo and Cristobal, which candidates are we certain can recruit near Saban's and Smart's level in the SEC? Riley might be able to and I'd still prefer him over Aranda, but to suggest Aranda is a terrible recruiter is ridiculous.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 4:18 pm to thelawnwranglers
NIL is an administration and boosters issue. The big boosters need to impress their company owners [or themselves if they are in the latter role] to open up their wallets. The administration needs to work with those companies to help them develop creative methods to take advantage of NIL.
Leave the coaches out of NIL. They've got enough to focus upon then adding an additional need to be commercial agents and directors.
Leave the coaches out of NIL. They've got enough to focus upon then adding an additional need to be commercial agents and directors.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 4:33 pm to SammyTiger
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He’s recruiting Baylor as well as Briles was.
His recruiting at Baylor is not even in the same ballpark as the talent that Briles brought or was bringing to Baylor.
I like Aranda as a coach, but there are serious concerns/questions about his recruiting ability.
In 3 classes(including the 2022 class) Aranda has yet to bring in a Texas Top 40 recruit. He has yet to win a recruiting battle against OU, aTm or Texass or LSU or Ohio State or etc., while Briles won recruiting battles for Top 10 players in the State of Texas. Big Difference.
And Briles best class in 2016 was gutted by his firing in May with the release from NLI from at least 6 of his top recruits, Devin Durverney, Patrick Hudson, PJ Urquidez to Texass (all Texas Top 40, 2 of which were Top 10); Patrick Cobb to Oklahomo and Kam Martin to Auburn (both of which were Texas Top 50).
Also lost the commitment of Kellen Mond from the 2017 class because of Briles' firing.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 5:27 pm to Curtis Lowe
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His recruiting at Baylor is not even in the same ballpark as the talent that Briles brought or was bringing to Baylor.
2009 Class: 53
2010 Class: 38
2011 Class: 46
2012 Class: 26
2013 Class: 27
2014 Class: 25
2015 Class: 36
2021 Class: 41
So Briles did have 3 years in the top 30 but otherwise Aranda's current 2021 ranking is within his common range. Certainly "within the same ballpark".
Posted on 11/13/21 at 5:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
2022 is 33 right now
He’s not recruiting better or worse than anyone at Baylor
A couple years like this and he will break the 20s
He’s not recruiting better or worse than anyone at Baylor
A couple years like this and he will break the 20s
Posted on 11/13/21 at 5:36 pm to OKtiger
That’s why u gotta keep Mickey Joseph, Raymond, and Davis
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