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Aranda as a recruiter

Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:34 pm
This was always the knock on him, though I do remember he improved in his time here. Anyone have any insight on how he’s recruited at Baylor?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:44 pm to
They've gotten better in the rankings each year he has been there. He's turned Apu into a really great player so you know he can teach.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
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38503 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:45 pm to
Orgeron camp propaganda
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 5:46 pm to
Chavis left the cupboard empty at LB because he was a lazy, non-recruiting frick.

Aranda restocked the cupboard and then some, plus turned Chief's leftovers into legit talents.

Aranda might not be the loud, boisterous, charismatic used car salesman that Orgeron is, but I wouldn't sell Dave short. He does enough to land them, and then he actually develops them once they're on the field.

I'm sure parents (in particular) get tired of the arse-kissing, sunshine blowing, disingenuous, typical recruiting pitches most coaches throw at them. Aranda brings a very different, genuine dynamic.
Posted by Micro12Tiger
Member since Oct 2021
446 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 5:49 pm to
Aranda can't become the face of LSU because he sucks at recruiting. Not to mention that all the elite QB's will bypass LSU and go somewhere else and just like when Les Miles was the head football coach.
Posted by Micro12Tiger
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 5:50 pm to
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Anyone have any insight on how he’s recruited at Baylor?


It's too early to tell since the players he is winning with right now are Matt Rhule recruited football players.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
11932 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 5:54 pm to
According to 24/7 Baylor, last year was ranked #33 in recruiting
Posted by Zchlsu
Twin Peaks, Washington
Member since Jan 2011
7527 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:13 pm to
All of your takes are completely terrible. If he produces talent and produces NFL players they don't care if he is loud and crazy. Can't even compare him and Les Miles.
Posted by Micro12Tiger
Member since Oct 2021
446 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:25 pm to
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All of your takes are completely terrible. If he produces talent and produces NFL players they don't care if he is loud and crazy. Can't even compare him and Les Miles.


That's obviously because I'm not nearly as severely mentally deficient as you so obviously are.
Posted by Zchlsu
Twin Peaks, Washington
Member since Jan 2011
7527 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:31 pm to
So you are saying are mentally deficient? Nice of you to be honest micropeentiger12.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 7:41 pm to
Under Rhule Baylor had close to the same ranked classes so he's at least keeping up with the status quo there.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8140 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:01 pm to
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According to 24/7 Baylor, last year was ranked #33 in recruiting


That's actually for 2022. Let's skip 2020 as most of the recruiting was done by Rhule before Aranda took over.

Here's Rhule 4 classes for comparison
2016: 40th (4-stars: 2, 3-stars: 13)
2017: 40th (4-stars: 0, 3-stars: 27)
2018: 29th (4-stars: 6, 3-stars: 17)
2019: 35th (4-stars: 2, 3-stars: 21)
Rhule's average: 36th (4-stars: 2.5, 3-stars: 19.5)

2021: 41st (4-stars: 2, 3-stars: 16)
2022: 33rd (4-stars: 1, 3 stars: 18)
Aranda's Average: 37th (4-stars: 1.5, 3 stars: 17)

2022 is still a work in progress, but it looks like Aranda's recruiting isn't significantly different to Rhule's.

So yes, Aranda is winning with Rhule's players, but they are no better or worse than his own will be.

Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:19 pm to
There is no evidence this is true at all. Granted, such evidence isn't in plain site if it existed. But no one can point to a damn thing.

- no recruit or player comments
- hasn't been spotted back in his home town while "recruiting" (as happened with Chavis constantly)
- no other assitant coaches complaining - before OR after he left
- Track record at Baylor does not show a decline which would be the case if the HCIC wasn't on his game
- Plenty of pictures with him with recruits, spends time with them on visits
- Go look at his recruits (the best way to tell about recruiting) at LSU. He brings in a comparable volume to other coordinators/assistants. He just might have a higher recruit ranking average than some that might surprise you.

What Dave Aranda hates is disorganization and inefficiency. So traveling to recruit a player that doesn't fit an overall plan, or having no overall plan at all, is what he hates. He wants to be sure that his and his peers time is spent away from their family on shitty planes is time best spent. Going through the motions for the sake of motion is how to get Aranda to turn into evil Darth Aranda.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23917 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:33 pm to
I'm really not that concerned about recruiting, for anyone that comes here.

For every 10 players that come to LSU, 8 will come regardless of the coach. They WANT to be at LSU.
The other 2 guys want to play for a winner. If the guy who comes here turns the team around and makes an impact, those guys will continue to come.

I'd rather have the #10 class, and those guys are picked because they fit the scheme, than the #2 class full of shiny 5 stars who don't fit what you want, and half who will transfer because they're behind the other half in a year.
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2922 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:36 pm to
If O and Les were such great recruiters and we always had top recruiting classes, then why do we suck so bad now? Why do we have 5* that barely get on the field and then transfer? Why do we never have any OL and a general shortage of linemen period? Why were two of the greatest players we have had, Mathieu and Jefferson, both 3*? Recruiting rankings dont mean a damn if they don't produce a well stocked team that has players who play up to their potential. Add into that players who develop physically and in their knowledge of their positions after high school and rankings mean even less.
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