re: Am i seriously the only person who thinks that Bret Bielema was a great hire?

Posted by bbap

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Feb 2006

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:35 am to Titus Pullo

he's not a bad coach but it seems like a pretty terrible hire. he can't recruit at all.

Posted by Chimlim

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Jul 2005

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:40 am to bbap

He's a good coach, but won't be able to compete with LSU/Bama if he doesn't recruit well.

It's a decent hire, he did very well in the Big 10 while Ohio State and Michigan were down.

Posted by BilJ

Member since Sep 2003

160529 posts

Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:51 am to Titus Pullo

quote:
be Petersen, Patterson, or Gundy

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BB is a better hire than any of the ones you just listed

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No....just no

Posted by bbap

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Feb 2006

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:54 am to BilJ

yeah that comment was awful.

Posted by BilJ

Member since Sep 2003

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:56 am to bmy

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i like the hire. in the numerous "who would you hire if les was gone".. chryst/bielema were mentioned numerous times in the past few years.

that running scheme with LSU personnel

Chryst was mentioned as an OC option, but no one mentioned BB as a replacement man.

Ark needed either a great recruiter or Xs and Os master...it looks like they went 0-2.

I can't wait to hear him piss and moan about SEC recruiting. I'm guessing he'll be trying to turn schools in left and right.

This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 8:00 am

Posted by PacLSU

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:05 am to Titus Pullo

I don't see this as a great hire. He was good, not great, at Whisky at a time when the Big 10 was not very good. I would have to say the 2012 campaign was uninspiring but I don't know enough about them to know a good reason why. He's walking into the toughest division of the toughest conference with a team that is in disarray and not built for a power running game and relying on defense. I think he needs at least 3 years to make over Arkansas into his image and begin being successful. But if he's not winning in 3 years, I believe he will be canned. Prediction: Arkansas will be looking for a new HC in 2015.

Posted by Billy Mays

Member since Jan 2009

25504 posts

Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:06 am to Titus Pullo

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Am i seriously the only person who thinks that Bret Bielema was a great hire?

No, you narcissist.

There's tons of threads on this board congratulating Arky on getting Bielema.

Posted by TigerBait2008

Boulder,CO

Member since Jun 2008

35827 posts

Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:17 am to Titus Pullo

Nope, Horrible hire, unless you like finishing 4th in your own division for years to come.

The hire just reeked of desperation. And I guess they were after everyone that was anyone told them to get stuffed. So they settled for This clown.

You never heard his name till he was hired you heard all the other names. why? because it was desperation. shite no one wants to coach us. Hey some guy at Wisconsin called, frick it hire him.

I suspect that within 3 years we will be having this search for arkansas next coach again..

Posted by The Sultan of Swine

Member since Nov 2010

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:19 am to TigerBait2008

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The hire just reeked of desperation

We were so desperate that we resorted to hiring a coach from a BCS conference, headed to his third Rose Bowl in a row.

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Posted by The Sultan of Swine

Member since Nov 2010

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:22 am to The Sultan of Swine

As far as recruiting goes, I see the fact that Bielema has had success without a bunch of 5 stars as a good thing. Arkansas doesn't have the in-state talent to pull top 10 classes every year. We need someone who can develop talent.

Posted by TRUERockyTop

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:24 am to The Sultan of Swine

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You never heard his name till he was hired you heard all the other names. why? because it was desperation. shite no one wants to coach us. Hey some guy at Wisconsin called, frick it hire him.

This needs to be framed

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Posted by nicholastiger

Member since Jan 2004

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:24 am to KillianRussell

Saban was LSU's fourth or fifth on the list but that turned out pretty good

Posted by SM6

Georgia

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:30 am to nicholastiger

The knock on Bielema is that his teams were always good, but could never get over the hump. They always dropped a game in B10 play to another good team and usually came up with a clunker to go with it ending up 10-2.

I wouldn't be concerned with his recruiting ability. He will hire some assistants who know Texas and the SE like the back of their hand and will cut them lose on the trails, just happy if they put in 10-20 hours of opponent film study a week as a bonus.

Posted by The Sultan of Swine

Member since Nov 2010

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:30 am to TRUERockyTop

Actually, you never heard this name because our AD doesn't let anything get out of the BAC.

Long said back in November that we would announce our hire in 10-14 days. 10 days later we announce Bielema. He may not have been our first choice, but I'm positive that he has been Long's guy for a long time.

The Petrino hiring came out of nowhere too. Was he also a desperation hire?

Posted by Linkovich

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:33 am to The Sultan of Swine

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As far as recruiting goes, I see the fact that Bielema has had success without a bunch of 5 stars as a good thing. Arkansas doesn't have the in-state talent to pull top 10 classes every year. We need someone who can develop talent.

I don't think he's a bad coach and don't think that's why this is a strange hire for Arkansas. This just seems to have the makings of Rich Rod to Michigan. I don't know if Bielema is going to fit in the SEC; it's hard to tell. I think him taking lesser salary to hire a better staff is a major plus for you guys, depending on who they are, obviously.

Posted by Indiana Tiger

Member since Feb 2005

4079 posts

Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:33 am to Titus Pullo

I think it's a very good hire. The issue is how will he do recruiting wise, but you can see a strategy that might work. Texas is key and he should be able to add staff in that regard, but it is not enough. While the southeast produces a shite load of talent, it really isn't enough to fulfill every school's aspirations. The SEC must import more talent and Arky is well positioned to be a gateway school for the midwest and BB is an ideal coach to tap into it.

Posted by ohiovol

Member since Jan 2010

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:34 am to Titus Pullo

I think it's solid at the very least.

Posted by The Sultan of Swine

Member since Nov 2010

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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:40 am to Linkovich

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I don't think he's a bad coach and don't think that's why this is a strange hire for Arkansas. This just seems to have the makings of Rich Rod to Michigan. I don't know if Bielema is going to fit in the SEC; it's hard to tell. I think him taking lesser salary to hire a better staff is a major plus for you guys, depending on who they are, obviously.

I was worried about the fit at first, but we haven't always been a spread offense. Bielema's offense is much closer to what Arkansas has traditionally been than Petrino's.

I was hoping we would get a coach that focuses on the running game, because if there is one position that the state of Arkansas does produce, it's running backs. Just recently we've seen Cedric Cobbs, Mcfadden, Hillis, Dyer, and Tenpenny looks like he will be a good one. We need to take advantage of this.