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re: Alabama OC...Not a big name but did pretty well.

Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:30 am to
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
13059 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:30 am to
THIS!! The 100% commitment to WINNING is not here! We have become a football program of hoping to catch lightning in a bottle! When it doesn't happen, NEXT YEAR! Man, we gonna be good next year! Screw that! If you want to be Ga Tech, winning 8-9 games, GTFO! The mindset of this program has declined! Then having an AD giving ridiculous contracts and buyouts to coaches that Literally no on is after (exclude Aranda), puts LSU further behind.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26776 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:41 am to
quote:

one more chance"


It's Orgerons first full year as LSU head coach.

quote:

he doesn't want to be OC. even if he's a success, we get that for what? 1 year? 2 max? then we have to hire a new OC


Look at the bright side, Alleva should have no problem negotiating a no buyout clause.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 9:43 am
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
13059 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Look at the bright side, Alleva should have no problem negotiating a no buyout clause.


One would think. Ensminger will most likely get a 3.5 million buyout and 1.5mill per year. You know, be the highest paid OC, bc that's what LSU does!
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:57 am to
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we'll likely win 8-9 games so Alleva won't be under fire to get rid of O


That might be wishful thinking next year.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:06 am to
quote:

nextmanup
its the massive number of blindly following, emotional, low information people like you that got Oregeron hired in the first place...Let smart, rational, people make the decisions in the future...
Posted by nextmanup
Member since Nov 2017
281 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 11:12 am to
You're the idiot
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 11:51 am to
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and he's old


Having been on this earth for 61 years, I take this comment personal....so you young sir, can kiss my arse.
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

1. If Ensminger struggles running the offense, you get your wish. Are you happy? 2. However, if Ensminger succeeds, our offense does well and we have a great season. Are you happy?


If we get 7-9 wins a year and (occasionally) win a meaningless bowl game, will YOU be happy? If so, are you glad we've blown millions to get something we already had? Orgeron sure is.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74134 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:48 pm to
My goodness Alabama can afford it give. How ridiculous their recruiting is and HC
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29862 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:50 pm to
Did Saban get hired at Bama solely for the fact that he would hire the BEST coordinators?

If saban hired Ensminger i would have no fault, because it would probably work. They have the best Oline in football year after year, they dont have to out scheme people.

LSU needs someone that can dissect a defense when we can't just run it down their throat.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9316 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:50 pm to
Man you talking to the same people who ran with the "O lost all N.O. HS coaches crowd bro. This place is a joke, they are all little chickens, following the flock, they have no real info, no real opinions, they simply follow each other like a bunch of chickens.

When the flock is upset, they all flap their little wings, jump around, knowing that their death is imminent. This place should be called the chicken coop. It's madness in here, and they have no clue what's going to happen. None what so ever.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29862 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:53 pm to
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he's also been an OC for 3 different teams

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in the NFL


Funny he left out that tidbit in the OP
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96247 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:54 pm to
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if this is a terrible hire?


This is the insidious thing - Because I was a kid in the 1970s, I LOVE Steve Ensminger as a Tiger. And, he's not "terrible" (stale, maybe, but not terrible) on paper as an OC hire.

But, if LSU is going to aspire to be one of the 4 playoff teams, Steve just isn't the right guy, IMHO. I hope like hell he proves me wrong.

And with our budget and status, we could have hired any one of 6 or 7 guys who likely IS one of the guys who can get us there - far more likely to do so than SE.

Again, praying like hell he proves me wrong - the 2016 offense he called looked great at times. If he's the guy from January on - maybe it can work (see how chronic, fatal optimism works?)






Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:54 pm to
There is NOTHING

Listen to me... NOTHING

That Edward Orgeron will ever do that will come remotely close to anything Saban has done or will do.

Saban was even able to hire Ed’s BBQ buddy, another thing Ed will never be able to do
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38480 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:11 pm to
Daboll is on loan from Belichick
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3384 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Alabama OC...Not a big name but did pretty well.


Yeah, but he only did pretty well because of Saban's recruits.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
3008 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:14 pm to
A great offensive line and effective QB make an average OC look great. The real issue is OL recruiting and QB recruiting/development. Without those 2 components Steve Spurrier would get heartburn.
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