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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 2/1/14 at 11:49 pm to Analyze That
Posted on 2/1/14 at 11:49 pm to Analyze That
Just had a quick bit of an "oh" moment while doing the re-read of the AFFC/ADWD.
Beware the perfumed seneschal- Quaithe to Daenerys. Well, it took me a while and couple of readings, but oh yeah- the ship that is carrying Tyrion, Jorah, and Moqorro is named the Selaesori Qhoran which is explained in depth at one point to mean "the fragrant steward". Steward and seneschal are the same position. When Tyrion tried to be crude, Moqorro made a point to say no, it means "imbued with a pleasant aroma" "fragrant" "flowery". But now which of those three will prove the most dangerous to Dany?
I am sure others have come to this moment long before me, but I had to laugh when it finally pushed itself to the fore.
Beware the perfumed seneschal- Quaithe to Daenerys. Well, it took me a while and couple of readings, but oh yeah- the ship that is carrying Tyrion, Jorah, and Moqorro is named the Selaesori Qhoran which is explained in depth at one point to mean "the fragrant steward". Steward and seneschal are the same position. When Tyrion tried to be crude, Moqorro made a point to say no, it means "imbued with a pleasant aroma" "fragrant" "flowery". But now which of those three will prove the most dangerous to Dany?
I am sure others have come to this moment long before me, but I had to laugh when it finally pushed itself to the fore.
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 11:54 pm to SoGaFan
The people at westeros.org and grrm's notablog drive me up the walls. Just give me actual info on the upcoming release.
Do you all expect Christmas 2014 or think more like Christmas 2015? I just finished reading Erickson's "Malazan Book of the Fallen". If anyone needs something to keep them busy, I highly recommend it. I think it is actually quite a bit better than ASoIaF.
Do you all expect Christmas 2014 or think more like Christmas 2015? I just finished reading Erickson's "Malazan Book of the Fallen". If anyone needs something to keep them busy, I highly recommend it. I think it is actually quite a bit better than ASoIaF.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 12:52 am to ladytiger118
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It's a logistical detail connected to a popular theory.
I'm intrigued by this.
The relationship between Targs and dragons? The recent short story stressed the idea that the Targ blood was necessary to ride but its definitely in Targ interest to float that idea.
What else could be called a logistical detail? Maybe the military capabilities of the various regions? The Tyrell and Lannister houses can field upwards of fifty thousand men but Winterfell, calling on all of the North, can only field twenty thousand? There have been a couple of mentions of the southern lords scooping up kitchen boys and such with makeshift weapons and armor. Maybe the harsh northern climate taught the Starks not to bloat their ranks with useless mouths. Not sure how to tie that to a popular theory though. Maybe the GNC?
Or could be something in the timeline? Like the specific dates of the Tourney at Harrenhal, fall of KL, ToJ
Posted on 2/2/14 at 9:17 am to shinerfan
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The relationship between Targs and dragons? The recent short story stressed the idea that the Targ blood was necessary to ride but its definitely in Targ interest to float that idea.
What else could be called a logistical detail? Maybe the military capabilities of the various regions? The Tyrell and Lannister houses can field upwards of fifty thousand men but Winterfell, calling on all of the North, can only field twenty thousand? There have been a couple of mentions of the southern lords scooping up kitchen boys and such with makeshift weapons and armor. Maybe the harsh northern climate taught the Starks not to bloat their ranks with useless mouths. Not sure how to tie that to a popular theory though. Maybe the GNC?
Or could be something in the timeline? Like the specific dates of the Tourney at Harrenhal, fall of KL, ToJ
Those sum my thoughts about what it could be about. Either something involving a timeline with the Tourney of Harrenhal/Robert's Rebellion that would add further fuel to R+L=J being true or something having to do with Targs and dragon blood.
I doubt it's going to be an explicit theory like "R+L=J" or "The Hound is the Gravedigger" or "Loras isn't deformed/severely injured" or "Faegon is real/fake" or "There's a dragon under Winterfell".
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:36 am to ladytiger118
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"There's a dragon under Winterfell".
Interesting... How long have the walls of Winterfell been heated? This could mean its a line of dragons or one very old dragon from at least the Age of Heros.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 11:26 am to Analyze That
Good question. I have no clue how long the walls of Winterfell have been heated. I'd say over 1000 years for sure.
1 more week until the 15 minute Season 4 special.
1 more week until the 15 minute Season 4 special.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 12:28 pm to Analyze That
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Interesting... How long have the walls of Winterfell been heated? This could mean its a line of dragons or one very old dragon from at least the Age of Heros.
I tend to think there's some connection between the warm walls (heated by warm water but no discussion of HOW it's heated) and the fact that the Stark crypts seem to be neverending. There's something down there and not just the ghosts of the Starks. And you've had at least one person in former stories LIVE down there and birth a baby no less.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 12:47 pm to BluegrassBelle
Don't forget the hot springs too.
The theory was when the Horn of Joramun/Euron's horn was blown, it would wake a sleeping dragon hidden inside the wall, and as it breaks free to respond to the call it smashes down the wall in the process, thus fufilling both prophecies of the two major horns in the story.
The theory was when the Horn of Joramun/Euron's horn was blown, it would wake a sleeping dragon hidden inside the wall, and as it breaks free to respond to the call it smashes down the wall in the process, thus fufilling both prophecies of the two major horns in the story.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 12:52 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
That's a really awesome theory.
Do you think that is possibly the one that was confirmed?
Also, look at what GRRM wrote on his blog today. Has no one but HIMSELF to blame for his TWoW progress:
Do you think that is possibly the one that was confirmed?
Also, look at what GRRM wrote on his blog today. Has no one but HIMSELF to blame for his TWoW progress:
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It's here at last! Super Bowl Sunday, the holiest day of the year... and this year, in the swamps of New Jersey, we will get the confrontation I have so long dreamed of, the SUBWAY SUPER BOWL, pitting the New York Giants against the New York Jets for all the....
Oh, wait. That;s not this world, that's the alternate world I like to visit from time to time, the one where GAME OF THRONES has won three Emmys in a row, THE WINDS OF WINTER was finished a year ago, there's a base on the moon and a spaceship headed for Mars, and I don't have enough space on my mantle for all the Hugos, Pulitzers, and Nobel Prizes.
In THIS world, the real one, it's the Seattle Seahawks and the Denver Broncos.
Should be a pretty good game in any case. Offense versus defense, the classic battle. Can Eli's big brother win another ring, to match Eli?
Enjoy the game, folks. Enjoy the commercials, if you're not a football fan. Enjoy the pizza, beer, brats, chips & salsa, chile con queso, hot wings, etc.
Happy Super Sunday.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 12:56 pm to ladytiger118
Just saw Phillip Seymour Hoffman died, he would have made a good Black Walder Frey IMO.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 12:59 pm to BluegrassBelle
The Fourteen Fires is an immense chain of volcanoes extending across the neck of the Valyrian peninsula.
"The Valyrians sheep-herding folk of the Valyrian peninsula, discovered dragons lairing in the Fourteen Fires, leading to their rise to power. Later the Valyrians sent their slaves to mines in the Fourteen Fires, searching for gold among other things. Sometimes firewyrms were encountered in the shafts of the mines by the slaves, leaving only corpses.
Great heat emanates from dragons' bodies, to the point that they steam during cold nights. They breathe extremely hot fire and cook their meat before eating it."
So GRRM can go either way with this one.
Winterfell is where the last battle at the war of dawn was fought(The place where winter fell). When it was the done, the last hero(also Bran The Builder) sealed his weapon - Lightbringer, actually a dragon, building a castle over it. He knew a day will come when the others will rise again so when the castle was destroyed Lightbringer was set loose into the north.
Or...
Given the volcanic nature of the destruction of Hardhome, The hot springs under Winterfell could just be a result of nearby volcanic activity. This doesn't mean there isn't anything significant under Winterfell, but that it probably isn't dragons
"The Valyrians sheep-herding folk of the Valyrian peninsula, discovered dragons lairing in the Fourteen Fires, leading to their rise to power. Later the Valyrians sent their slaves to mines in the Fourteen Fires, searching for gold among other things. Sometimes firewyrms were encountered in the shafts of the mines by the slaves, leaving only corpses.
Great heat emanates from dragons' bodies, to the point that they steam during cold nights. They breathe extremely hot fire and cook their meat before eating it."
So GRRM can go either way with this one.
Winterfell is where the last battle at the war of dawn was fought(The place where winter fell). When it was the done, the last hero(also Bran The Builder) sealed his weapon - Lightbringer, actually a dragon, building a castle over it. He knew a day will come when the others will rise again so when the castle was destroyed Lightbringer was set loose into the north.
Or...
Given the volcanic nature of the destruction of Hardhome, The hot springs under Winterfell could just be a result of nearby volcanic activity. This doesn't mean there isn't anything significant under Winterfell, but that it probably isn't dragons
Posted on 2/2/14 at 1:03 pm to ladytiger118
I'm really not sure. Based on who wrote the the tweet and theories he has supported in the past and the fact that it's going to be exposed in twoiaf, which to me means it will be about world building and not plot driven,I'd say it's something to do with dragonblood and old Valyria
Posted on 2/2/14 at 1:05 pm to ladytiger118
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Also, look at what GRRM wrote on his blog today. Has no one but HIMSELF to blame for his TWoW progress:
I still think maybe we get tWoW this year. I think that stuff on twitter between his publishers was to try and throw people off
Posted on 2/2/14 at 1:12 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
I certainly hope the tweet from his publisher and his "alternate universe where TWoW was done a year ago" are just Martin and co trolling us all....but I have my doubts, that's for sure. I still say 2015 is likely, I hope.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 3:05 pm to ladytiger118
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Enjoy the pizza
The pizzas are coming, I promise.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 5:19 pm to OMLandshark
I will do what that did in that episode...go knock on his door in NM and ask when the dragons are coming.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 6:37 pm to MLSter
and I'm sure GRRM is stuffing his gut with food tonight too. Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:11 pm to ladytiger118
This is fricking great: 
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:14 pm to ladytiger118
So great.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 11:47 pm to ladytiger118
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Peyton is a lot like Robb Stark, wins the small battles but loses the war
Dayummm. Truth bombs being dropped
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