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Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:19 pm to
Seems like it but he is supposedly pretty tough in combat.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:19 pm to
well so is loras
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:23 pm to
Ok, checked wiki to get my facts clear. Even if Cersi was the mad kings daughter, that would make Aegon her nephew, not little brother (assuming he IS Aegon). So no more possibilities for someone to strangle her in that direction.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:33 pm to
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Here's another reason why Sansa will kill Littlefinger. Remember the Woods Witch? She dreamed dreamed of a girl with purple vipers in her hair (Sansa with the poisonous "black amethysts from Asshai" in her hairnet), and then of the same girl slaying a giant in a castle made of snow. Granted, this was apparently fulfilled when Sansa ripped Robert's doll in half, but thats pretty damn insignificant if you ask me. Everyone knows that Littlefinger's sigil is the Mockingbird, but House Baelish's is the Titan of Braavos. The toy was merely a trick to get the readers off the scent. Sansa and Littlefinger will arrive in Winterfell, a castle of snow, and Sansa will kill him there when she realizes how he's destroyed her house and how he plans to destroy it and basically every other house in Westeros completely.


hoping that was a red herring like 80% of all the other dreams/prophesies

just too cliche for sansa to kill him imo. would be a bad end to his story
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 5:41 am to
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hoping that was a red herring like 80% of all the other dreams/prophesies

just too cliche for sansa to kill him imo. would be a bad end to his story

There ARE a glut of dreams and prophesies out there, aren't there? Though I tend to think most of them come true in some form or other. But usually twisted somehow.

But I think this one might be a stretch and it might actually just be the doll and snow castle.

I'm not sure what would be a fitting end to Littlefinger though. If they apply the whole, "game of thrones, you win or you die" then there are only two ultimate outcomes for him. And if he dies, I think Sansa's just as good as anyone to do the deed. Hell, she's one of the few characters left who hasn't killed someone that I can remember. (I think even Bran has killed while warging into a wolf. And no telling what Rickon has been up to out on Skagos).
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 7:22 am to
So why did Ned never tell his wife that R+L=J? It would have taken a lot of stress out of his marriage and Cat wouldnt have been such a count to Jon.

I just assume Ned knew he couldn't trust a woman with a secret.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:33 am to
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So why did Ned never tell his wife that R+L=J? It would have taken a lot of stress out of his marriage and Cat wouldnt have been such a count to Jon.



well the theory is that the "promise" Ned made to Lyanna was that he would never tell anyone that Jon is her's and Rhaegar's son.

We all know that Ned Stark is honorable to a fault


So he likely kept this promise from everyone just our of honor, even thought on the outside it looked like a stain on his honor, on the inside he knew the truth



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I just assume Ned knew he couldn't trust a woman with a secret.



and probably some of that
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 8:34 am
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:55 am to
There is also his statement to Catelyn to never ask who Jon's mother is. He didn't want to have to lie to her. He promised to never give up Jon's parentage, but flat out lying to his wife was just as bad as breaking that promise. So he does the half lie shite where he claims him, as Jon's uncle and closest surviving relative, and never says who his mother is.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:56 am to
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So he does the half lie shite where he claims him, as Jon's uncle and closest surviving relative, and never says who his mother is.


and only says "He is my blood"

and "He is a Stark"

and shite
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:58 am to
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just too cliche for sansa to kill him imo. would be a bad end to his story



I just think its being set-up too well for it not to be his demise. What other way would Littlefinger go, because there's pretty much no way Littlefinger survives the series.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:01 am to
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I'm not sure what would be a fitting end to Littlefinger though. If they apply the whole, "game of thrones, you win or you die" then there are only two ultimate outcomes for him. And if he dies, I think Sansa's just as good as anyone to do the deed. Hell, she's one of the few characters left who hasn't killed someone that I can remember. (I think even Bran has killed while warging into a wolf. And no telling what Rickon has been up to out on Skagos).


I think Arya kills Littlefinger. While in Braavos she discovers Littlefinger's plot to frick up Westeros.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:03 am to
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So why did Ned never tell his wife that R+L=J? It would have taken a lot of stress out of his marriage and Cat wouldnt have been such a count to Jon.


Promise to his sister and protecting Jon > wife
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:05 am to
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Promise to his sister and protecting Jon > wife he barely knew
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:07 am to
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I think Arya kills Littlefinger. While in Braavos she discovers Littlefinger's plot to frick up Westeros.



i could see this as a way they keep Sansa's honor as a lady in tact

she has been the prim and proper maid throughout (even though lately she's seemed to have wised up a good bit) so this would let her remain as such

and I just want to see Arya's body count just keep rolling
Posted by BlackleafBaller
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:37 am to
I don't think Sansa will have anything to do with Littlefingers death (in regards to killing him herself) unless she learns he's planning on killing Rickon or finds out he was the one responsible for Ned being betrayed by the Gold Cloaks, to which very few would know about this that would tell her (Ser Barristan, the Hound).

I always thought it was interesting the Hound called her his "little bird" and Littlefinger's sigil is a mockingbird...would be interesting if it turned out Clegane had been working in secret for Baelish
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I think even Bran has killed while warging into a wolf.

Knowing what we know now, I wouldn't be surprised if he warged into Summer when Joffrey sent the assassin to kill him when we was still out from the fall. He would've simply thought he was dreaming. Though I'm also a big fan of the wolf, sent by the old gods, simply protecting him.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:55 am to
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I don't think Sansa will have anything to do with Littlefingers death (in regards to killing him herself) unless she learns he's planning on killing Rickon or finds out he was the one responsible for Ned being betrayed by the Gold Cloaks, to which very few would know about this that would tell her (Ser Barristan, the Hound).


And I think all this will happen. She already knows Littlefinger killed Jon Arryn and basically forced Ned down to King's Landing. Littlefinger has gotten careless around Sansa, and it wouldn't shock me if he directly told Sansa about framing Tyrion, and then would say the wrong word that would make Sansa realize he told Joffrey to kill him.

My bet on how Sansa makes the connection: Littlefinger wants to do something brutal that Sansa will protest, and he will tell her that she merely has the soft heart of a woman. Sansa will definitely remember those words and immediately make the connection.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:25 am to
What would yall rather see made into a movie?

Robert's Rebellion (War of the Usurper)
-Neds dad and brother killed by mad king
-robert and rhaegar on trident
-kingslayer
-robert and lyannas last talk, howland reed in attendace

Or

Aegons conquest of westeros
- field of fricking fire with 3 dragons
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:31 am to
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Aegons conquest of westeros
- field of fricking fire with 3 dragons

Only a big production movie studio could do it justice and even then it would be hard.

I'd like to see the whole rebellion starting with the Tourney at Harrenhal and ending with the marriage of Ned Stark to Catelyn Tully... could probably be made into a trilogy.
Posted by F machine
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:32 am to
That's a tough one. I am more connected to the characters in the War of the Usurper, so there's that. But I also would love to see Aegon wreck shite.
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