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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/30/13 at 7:38 pm to 19
Posted on 4/30/13 at 7:38 pm to 19
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The snow castle is Winterfell, but representative of House Stark (the family) not the seat.
The doll is rep'tive of an object or entity used opposite its intended or perceived purpose - a plaything used as a weapon- perceived care/ friendship is not what it appears to be...actually the opposite.
The hand controlling this entity: Robbyn Arryn...also known as The Lord of the Vale...
A clear warming for Sansa to beware LF/ become aware of what he's doing.
Sansa destroying the doll, making Lord of the Vale very angry. Sounds like a showdown brewing.
At some point I almost long to go back to the old Hemingway saw - the old man is just an old man. The fish is just a fish. The sharks are just sharks. (this is not directed at you 19. I do the same thing. We all do. I think it's a sign the next book needs to get here.)
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 7:39 pm to Methuselah
I take it as the prophesy has already been fulfilled as well
Posted on 4/30/13 at 7:53 pm to Carson123987
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I take it as the prophesy has already been fulfilled as well
Agreed, every other prophecy mentioned in that sequence was fulfilled in the same book, it would be odd if that one wasn't as well. Not all prophecies in the series need to be earthshattering.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 7:58 pm to auyushu
Exactly. Got those Abercrombie books on the way from amazon. Thanks for reminding me
Posted on 4/30/13 at 7:59 pm to auyushu
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Not all prophecies in the series need to be earthshattering.
Woah. Winter IS coming
The Starks are prophetic too
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:42 pm to Carson123987
I hate Sansa so fricking much. Everyone raises hell about Dang being a whiny bitch, but Sansa takes the cake in that category IMO.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:46 pm to Aubie Spr96
I don't hate her so much as I find her aggravating , useless and boring.
Now that bitch Cat ...
Now that bitch Cat ...
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:34 am to ladytiger118
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Sansa one-upping Littlefinger would be karmic payback in a way/show that LF weakness is that he's an opportunistic social climber who loves chaos & always prides himself on being in-the-know. I definitely don't see Petyr alive at the end of this series. While a lot of "good" characters die in this series, some of the bad ones end up getting theirs, i.e. Joffrey.
He's still messing with the wolves, bound to get the tooth sooner or later. I still wonder if he had something to do with Brandon Stark running off half-cocked to demand Rhaegar face justice...LLF had motive and opportunity, a hasty attempt at removing him from Cat. A poorly played but far-reaching first "move" in the game.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:55 am to Methuselah
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this is not directed at you 19.
None taken, It's just what I do here- I've done sooo much of my senseless bantering on Westeros n other places over the years .
my passion for these books is deeply rooted in the "what if" and I'm always looking under rocks ( or watching other people do it) the wait for AFFC / ADWD is responsible for this. Was too late to respond to your question about the VQ and C's parentage - Initials cuz I can't spell it, no matter how many times I google it - but I always took it to mean "the little brother" so I think the candidates could range from Sandor to Loras, even Arya, if we take Maester Aemon's point about misreading the sex in prophecy as a universal possibility.
It was obviously meant for C to watch out for Tyrion to her, and she's too stupid to look past that. That bitch is doomed.
ETA: Measter Armon.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 11:03 am
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:13 am to 19
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I still wonder if he had something to do with Brandon Stark running off half-cocked to demand Rhaegar face justice...LLF had motive and opportunity, a hasty attempt at removing him from Cat. A poorly played but far-reaching first "move" in the game.
Can't believe I never considered this. It's perfect. There has been talk of who might intercept a possible letter from Lyanna to her family and what might their motive be. LF could have done so in an attempt to get rid of Brandon and end up with Cat after all, but when it failed he basked in the glory of a petty lord's son starting a war that divided the Kingdom. Well done
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:15 am to Mr. Wayne
Thanks Wayne. Where ya been?
And where the hell is Cotton?
And where the hell is Cotton?
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:22 am to Mr. Wayne
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Can't believe I never considered this. It's perfect. There has been talk of who might intercept a possible letter from Lyanna to her family and what might their motive be. LF could have done so in an attempt to get rid of Brandon and end up with Cat after all, but when it failed he basked in the glory of a petty lord's son starting a war that divided the Kingdom. Well done
my only hesitation with this is that LF was only 14 when Robert's Rebellion started
seems like a hell of a plot for a 14 year old
of course jon was a pretty young lord commander and robb a young king of the north
so who knows
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:24 am to Ash Williams
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seems like a hell of a plot for a 14 year old
It's not that complicated. All Littlefinger had to do was burn the letter.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:32 am to 19
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Where ya been?
And where the hell is Cotton?
I went full crackpot for a minute and had to reset. Like someone said earlier, it's easy when you constantly try to break down text to add too much meaning where it doesn't belong. The distance between books is getting past the point of my patience. I need more words! Not sure where Cotton is. He's been noticeably absent
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:33 am to OMLandshark
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the letter
Guess I should share some possible evidence-
Both Brandon and LLF were at Riverrun at the time, Petyr prolly being tended to by the Maester for his duel wound, and the Maester handling the ravens / letters.
Assuming the letter came by raven and was addressed to Brandon - and that's a pretty big assumption.
That's all I got.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:34 am to OMLandshark
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It's not that complicated. All Littlefinger had to do was burn the letter.
Exactly. It could have been more accidental than anything. Like did with a simple task in mind, but once he saw the outcome figured out even a man of simple origins can turn the world upside down.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:39 am to 19
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Assuming the letter came by raven and was addressed to Brandon - and that's a pretty big assumption
Not really though. It was known by everyone where Brandon was. Lyanna's father could have been on the way to Riverrun so she may have sent it to the only location she knew a Stark was at. So a young LF sees this letter arrive addressed to his most hated enemy and decided to snoop a little. Once he reads it he thinks if Brandon never gets this, he will rush to defend his families honor. Everyone knew Aerys as the Mad King. At the very least, he could have been trying to inconvenience Brandon before he married Cat.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 9:41 am
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:01 am to Mr. Wayne
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so she may have sent it to the only location she knew a Stark was at.
Doesn't she know there must always be a Stark in Winterfell? Dumb bitch.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:06 am to Mr. Wayne
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Exactly. It could have been more accidental than anything. Like did with a simple task in mind, but once he saw the outcome figured out even a man of simple origins can turn the world upside down.
Agreed. He just really decided with that letter "frick the Starks, lets see where this goes". Littlefinger's results couldn't have been any better. After Littlefinger sees how such a simple action of burning a letter can overthrow an entire dynasty, Littlefinger decides to continue to rip the Kingdoms apart and outsmart and destroy the ruling houses who kept him from his precious Cat.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:23 am to OMLandshark
This theory makes littlefinger solely responsible for Robert rebellion and the war of 5 kings. fricking awesome.
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