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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:58 pm to
I respectfully disagree.

Stannis has a part to play but Stannis is the type of man to lay down on his sword for the cause not the type to be swindled into ruling evil.

Bran with his ambition for glory is that latter type.
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:07 am to
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Stannis has a part to play but Stannis is the type of man to lay down on his sword for the cause not the type to be swindled into ruling evil.


Well, he’s going to light his daughter on fire, so I won’t put much past him after that. I don’t think he’ll take Jon Snow’s Targaryen heritage well once he finds out.

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Bran with his ambition for glory is that latter type.


I think there will be multiple people on the side of the Others, like Euron, Sir Robert Strong, and perhaps even Stoneheart.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 6:10 am
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:03 pm to
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Well, he’s going to light his daughter on fire,


We don't know if thats going to happen in the books unless I missed something
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:49 pm to
You didn’t. Plus Mel is still at the wall with Shireen. The only way I think Shireen gets burned is if it’s done to bring back Jon. Stains is in a fairly well fortified place with a frozen lake surrounding it, he’s also one of the best strategist left in the seven kingdoms going up against a brute force dumb Frey. He’s not falling anytime soon.

I would say to take anything past season 5 of the show with a grain of salt.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:19 pm to
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I would say to take anything past season 5 of the show with a grain of salt.


I really hope that is the case. I stopped watching the show around season 4 just because I wanted to avoid spoiling the book. With how popular the show is, there are a few things that are just unavoidable. The two that come to mind are the fate of one of the main characters (which I think most in this thread assumed) and how Hodor got his name. That one in particular would have been awesome to read the first time. I'm really hoping the books go in a completely different direction (if they come out) so that we are completely surprised.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:54 pm to
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We don't know if thats going to happen in the books unless I missed something




The show runners have said that her being burned alive by Stannis came straight from Martin, but who knows I guess.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 7:55 pm to
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We don't know if thats going to happen in the books unless I missed something


In the after the episode recap they specifically said her burning was straight from Martin.
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:05 am to
Yeah, Winds of Winter is a long book and there’s plenty of time for Stannis to get back to the Wall and burn her for different reasons than the show.
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 12:40 pm to
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Winds of Winter is a long overdue book
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:04 pm to
Fire and Blood release 11/20

Posted on book board as well

Edit: I’m an idiot, didn’t realize this thread had been moved to book board
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:13 pm to
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Archmaester Gyldayn is hanging up his quill for a while. As for me, I’m returning once again to THE WINDS OF WINTER.

Posted by Clockwatcher68
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:40 pm to
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Archmaester Gyldayn is hanging up his quill for a while. As for me, I’m returning once again to THE WINDS OF WINTER.


This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 8:45 pm
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:14 pm to
Bumped cuz it fell to pg4,
I'm stuck celebrating the fine writing within...and cursing the lack of any writing at all without.

Fat rich lazy frigging old man.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:41 pm to
Whenever I see this thread bumped my heart skips a beat...only to once again be let down in brutal fashion
Posted by Big_Slim
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:54 pm to
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Bloodraven is old and appears to have failing health. He needs an heir. That heir is Bran.


I don’t think he’s looking for an heir but rather to download his consciousness into Brans younger body. We see Six Skins attempt the same thing in the prologue when he tries to take over the chick, so who’s to say a stronger warg couldn’t do it to a weaker warg and thus retain his magic. Six Skins said he knew he wouldn’t retain his gift if he took over the chicks body, but that wouldn’t be the case with BR to Bran.

Also if anyone hasn’t read Euron’s preview chapter I highly suggest you do so. This is a vision Aeron Damphair has after taking some of that blue shite the mages of Quarth used to do:

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When he laughed his face sloughed off and the priest saw that it was not Urri but Euron, the smiling eye hidden. He showed the world his blood eye now, dark and terrible. Clad head to heel in scale as dark as onyx, he sat upon a mound of blackened skulls as dwarfs capered round his feet and a forest burned behind him. “The bleeding star bespoke the end,” he said to Aeron. “These are the last days, when the world shall be broken and remade. A new god shall be born from the graves and charnel pits.” Then Euron lifted a great horn to his lips and blew, and dragons and krakens and sphinxes came at his command and bowed before him. “Kneel, brother,” the Crow’s Eye commanded. “I am your king, I am your god. Worship me, and I will raise you up to be my priest.”
Aeron Damphair looked. The mound of skulls was gone. Now it was metal underneath the Crow’s Eye: a great, tall, twisted seat of razor sharp iron, barbs and blades and broken swords, all dripping blood.

Impaled upon the longer spikes were the bodies of the gods. The Maiden was there and the Father and the Mother, the Warrior and Crone and Smith … even the Stranger. They hung side by side with all manner of queer foreign gods: the Great Shepherd and the Black Goat, three-headed Trios and the Pale Child Bakkalon, the Lord of Light and the butterfly god of Naath. And there, swollen and green, half-devoured by crabs, the Drowned God festered with the rest, seawater still dripping from his hair.




And a later vision, some very Lovecraftian shite:

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The dreams were even worse the second time. He saw the longships of the Ironborn adrift and burning on a boiling blood-red sea. He saw his brother on the Iron Throne again, but Euron was no longer human. He seemed more squid than man, a monster fathered by a kraken of the deep, his face a mass of writhing tentacles. Beside him stood a shadow in woman’s form, long and tall and terrible, her hands alive with pale white fire. Dwarves capered for their amusement, male and female, naked and misshapen, locked in carnal embrace, biting and tearing at each other as Euron and his m


Dude is sitting on the iron throne with the bodies of the gods impaled on the ends of the sword.

And later in the chapter you find out he has a full set of Valyrian steel armor engraved with runes. Guy is shooting for godhood.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 10:06 pm
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:16 am to
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some very Lovecraftian shite


R'lyeh? fhtagn.


No, seriously. I always took the Drowned God as a nod to Cthulhu/ Lovecraft...two ancient cosmic gods lurking beneath the sea, The Drowned God in his sunken castle, and
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" ("In his house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.")
-The Call of Cthulhu, 1928
The driftwood warped humanoid figures of the Drowned God, the carved statue of the winged, tentacled bipedal monster...

Hard to ignore the similarity between:

"What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger"
And
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die."
-The Call of Cthulhu/The Nameless City, 1928

I think I am repeating myself in this very thread...aeons ago.

Mayhap Euron's ambition does indeed surpass some puny throne. Fatman has hinted for years the he is far beyond the most dangerous man on either continent.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 6:10 am
Posted by Decisions
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:41 pm to
Has the Saltwater Wall Theory been discussed here, yet? I only just stumbled across it on Reddit and found it very intriguing.

The basic theory is that salt is the other main weakness of the Others and the reason why they've never simply gone around the Wall.

Also of note are the repercussions this could have for the Horn of Winter/Joramunn: what would bringing down the Wall possibly result in or require? Why, the legendary Hammer of Waters, of course. And while the resulting tsunami would be devastating to humans it could result in an extinction-event for the Others, while also possibly severing the North from the Lands of Always Winter, thus trapping any surviving Others across an impassable channel from their prey.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:46 pm to
I think it was, but it was so long ago I can't be sure. I always assumed it was magic in The Wall, but can't speak for everyone.
Well, I wasn't gonna bump the thread for this, but since it already was...

My boys turned 1 last week:

L-R: Drogon, me, Rhaegal. (back fence is 6'. I'm 5'8")
Disclaimer: I fought like Hell for Gregor and Sandor, but was out-voted.


They haven't replaced my beloved girl...but they sure helped the mourning.


Rhaeyne (2006-2017)
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:41 am to
Grade A fricking pups right there
Posted by 19
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 3:48 pm to
Thanks, man. I am a proud poppa.
Not ashamed to admit to a new level of nerdiness: Their command to "speak" is, of course, "dracarys."

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