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re: Any news on the RR Martin finishing the damn GOT ??
Posted on 8/21/23 at 7:39 pm to Froman
Posted on 8/21/23 at 7:39 pm to Froman
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At least Martin is trying to work on his shite
Is he though??
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and empathizes with his fans
Does he though??
Seems like he’s been working on everything but completing the series. And I don’t think he give a single shite about his fans.
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 7:41 pm
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Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:35 pm to Froman
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Also, your comment on the second book is interesting. It’s probably better than the first book and I feel like almost everyone that has read them would say as much. Not hating on you at all, I’m just
You do realize he's talking about Rothfuss with the second book right? Because a large percentage of people (myself included) consider Wise Mans Fear to be a massive pile of shite. I literally don't know anyone that thinks it is better than Name of the Wind.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 7:33 am to auyushu
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Oh sweet summer child, he doesn't have jack crap finished. He got stuck and doesn't know how to write himself out. And it got twice as bad once the show finished and people hated the ending.
You know, a lot of us claimed the show got bad when they ran out of source material.
But now I’m starting to wonder if they HAD the source material and the shitty ending we got was actually all Martin.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:27 am to auyushu
I don't think the 2nd book is a massive pile of shite like you do. I still think its better than 90% of fantasy out there.
Its just not as good as 1 (understatement, Name of the Wind is an All-Time great fantasy novel), and the uh...middle part is rightly met with hate.
He simply knows he cannot finish in 3 books like he thought and is just stuck.
Its just not as good as 1 (understatement, Name of the Wind is an All-Time great fantasy novel), and the uh...middle part is rightly met with hate.
He simply knows he cannot finish in 3 books like he thought and is just stuck.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 9:53 am to Froman
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At least Martin is trying to work on his shite and empathizes with his fans
No to both of these things.
He’s literally lied to his publishing teams a couple years back claiming he was almost ready to publish WoW. Really strung them out for almost 6 months, with them continually pushing the publishing date out. And that was pre-COVID.
His excuse is he only writes from home. If he was truly that close, why didn’t he finish when we were locked down due to COVID for several months and he had no Cons or anything to attend?
Then, on top of that, anytime anyone questions him he projects and BLAMES the fans for being meanies towards him. Then talks about writing some totally different project.
He’s a grifter at this point.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:37 pm to BluegrassBelle
He’s a fat ungrateful piece of human filth but of course froman here thinks he’s fine
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:54 pm to Fun Bunch
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and the uh...middle part is rightly met with hate.
The uh... middle part is like 200-300 pages and like a third of the book.
That's a bit hard to just brush off. Remove all the author wish fulfillment and there might be a good book in there somewhere. But the entire last half of the book is extremely mediocre. I don't consider Name of the Wind an all time book myself (it is a very good book, don't get me wrong), but I'm more a character and plot guy. And outside of Kvothe the characters are weak, and the plot is so so (pretty run of the mill outsider genius in school story ala Enders Game).
The prose is of course fantastic and I would definitely put him in the top tier of prose. So I can see why people who value prose the most would have that book near the top.
But other than that Name of the Wind isn't anything special to me. He tends to spend tons of time on minutiae rather than the cool parts of the story. The Chandrian could be very good bad guys, but they are barely focused on. This issue is ramped up to ten in the second book, with everything interesting that is mentioned mostly glossed over so the author can focus on hundreds of pages of sex wish fulfillment word porn.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:43 am to auyushu
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Kvothe the characters are weak
I think a perfect example is that I couldn't really distinguish his two friends in my head. They were both around, but didn't really serve differing purposes.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:53 pm to Froman
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empathizes with his fans
he empathizes with pizza
Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:22 am to iwyLSUiwy
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6. The IP dies with him and he's not letting another author finish the story
He's said this multiple times but it will really be up to his heirs. How's his HBO money holding up? If that fat frick dies broke I doubt if his clear wishes are going to hold up long at all.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 5:05 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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3. He did little to nothing with TWOW during a pandemic where he was cooped up inside his house for a large portion of it
This is the most infuriating part about it.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 5:13 pm to ohiovol
Remember when he was rushing to get book 6 out before season 6? He made a big deal about how he was racing to complete it in time, then made a big deal about how sad he was at missing the deadline to get it published in time. As if he was ever fricking close.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:35 pm to auyushu
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Oh sweet summer child, he doesn't have jack crap finished. He got stuck and doesn't know how to write himself out. And it got twice as bad once the show finished and people hated the ending.
Yep. He can’t figure out how to get Dany to Westeros, and that is his ending.
It’s not a coincidence that Bran is the first POV chapter in the series.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:00 pm to Philzilla
I just wish he'd finish the dunk and egg series. Some of the best prose writing I've read and has really interesting topics to be covered
Posted on 9/4/23 at 9:17 pm to auyushu
quote:This is 99.99995% of the issue - the dude is gun shy and doesn't want to be crucified like the TV show producers were.
And it got twice as bad once the show finished and people hated the ending.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 11:00 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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The IP dies with him and he's not letting another author finish the story
Seriously? That’s a dick move. I hoped Brandon Sanderson would come in and save the day.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 12:10 am to biglego
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Seriously?
Yes. He’s commented on it and apparently had a ton of high paid attorneys draw up all kinds of documents to try and make that stick.
He is very butthurt about people commenting on his weight and age and never finishing.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 1:07 pm to shinerfan
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He's said this multiple times but it will really be up to his heirs. How's his HBO money holding up? If that fat frick dies broke I doubt if his clear wishes are going to hold up long at all.
Why would he die broke? He is probably one of the richest authors on the planet.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 2:05 pm to GenesChin
quote:To bad, gotta kick off another series set 4,532 years in the past work through 80% of it then soft reset to the next series set 7,246 years in the past.
I just wish he'd finish the dunk and egg series
Times a flat circle in the end or something
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