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Joey Galloway & Kirk Herbstreit Disagree With Greg McElroy About LSU's Playoff Chances

by Staff Reporter

November 8, 202257 Comments

Calvin Mattheis/News Sentinel / USA TODAY NETWORK

LSU landed at No. 7 in the latest College Football Playoff ranking that came out Tuesday night on ESPN. During the reveal, Greg McElroy said he didn't think LSU has a chance to make the four-team playoff even if they win out. Per On3:

quote:
“But ultimately what the committee has always valued is that one or zero in the loss column. And when you measure everything up, and all we have is precedent, we have never seen a two-loss team get in — in favor of a one-loss team.

“I just don’t see a scenario where LSU can find their way in because I think Tennessee would be ahead of them. I think you would have a situation where the loser of Ohio State-Michigan would be ahead of them. And I think Georgia, even if they beat Georgia at 12-1 in the SEC Championship Game, might even still be ahead of them because they only have that one in the loss column.”

Joey Galloway quickly disagreed...

quote:
“I don’t agree with that. If LSU goes on, runs their schedule and beats Georgia — I don’t know that anybody stands in front of them. I think they’ve earned it at that point,” countered Galloway.

And Kirk Herbstreit agreed with Galloway...

quote:
“It would be interesting to see, because when you get a cluster of teams they look at head-to-head, they look at conference championship — there’s no necessarily metric that weighs more than the other. So you wonder Rece and Greg, in the case of LSU, I know what you’re saying about history and two losses. But if you’re LSU — now who knows what they’re gonna do, they could lose Saturday at Arkansas. They still have to go to A&M, those aren’t easy games for them when they have a bullseye on their chest,” said Herbstreit.

“But if they were to win out and then win an SEC Championship Game against Georgia? My gosh. I mean, even with those two losses it’s at least an interesting discussion. As the SEC champion? I don’t think you just kind of throw that to the side and say ‘well, Tennessee, you know they beat them head-to-head and Georgia’s Georgia.’ I mean that’s still, that’s a lot of weight for them to win out and then win in Atlanta.”

How do you think this all shakes out at the end of the season?

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SomeLSUguy•21 months

So, (reading between the lines) if LSU wins the SECCG either two SEC teams get in (LSU & UGA) or none do... Good luck with the later. SEC East must be feeling like the SEC West did all those years when the West had 2 or 3 schools who thought they deserved to be in...

billfish21•21 months

It would arguably highly hypocritical to exclude ANY 2-loss SEC champion regardless if it’s LSU… or some unknown team from tuscaloosa… Geaux Tigers

rob62•21 months

Let’s beat Arkansas first.

LafTiger•21 months

SO....Hypothetically...if LSU runs the table, the committee's argument for keeping them out of the Playoff is, "We can take the loss to Tenn (they would have to have a 1-loss team most likely) BUT one play at the end of the FSU game (first game of the year, when FSU had a tune-up beforehand) is what will keep LSU out of the hunt?

Purple N Gold Blood•21 months

If LSU wins out it’s LSU and Georgia. Tenn on the outside looking in .

DeafVallyBatnR•21 months

Alabama guys are all about compliments when they are king of the road. But let a surprising LSU team beat the legend and should have been an unbeatable Bama team. Then you see the pettiness. Like I said in another thread. LSU does not have to get past Tennessee. They just have to finish 4th.

Koplan16•21 months

If LSU wins out:

Strength of schedule is
TN #24

LSU #30

Georgia #94

with both at one loss doesn’t this leave Ga. outside looking in and despite TN losing to Ga but TN beating LSU and LSU beating Ga

TigerFan55555•21 months

I think its all 3 in along with the winner of Michigan/Ohio State

KennabraTiger•21 months

It’s all fricked up. Ya hate to see it, but also ya love to see it

gumbojambalaya•21 months

If LSU wins out they're in. The chaos is deciding if Tennessee and/or Georgia get in too.

Menatiger•21 months

No matter winning out we need a lot of help to get in. We are fighting for spot #4. Georgia is in. Michigan or Ohio state are in. It looks like TCU is in. You have a perennial participant Clemson with one loss.
These pack 12 teams with one loss: Oregon, USC and UCLA. The committee may have pressure to put a one loss PAC 12 in because they are never in it. If Oregon wins out they got trounced 49-3 by Georgia and that was there toughest game all year. LSU lost an ugly game to Tennessee 40-13 and a one point loss to an average FSU. what can be said is we are playing better since the loss to Tennessee than anyone in the country. USC still plays a dangerous ND and rival UCLA, of which the winner will play Oregon who is playing better every week.

I contend we are NOT in the drivers seat of a playoffs spot. We really need some teams to lose the right game and some to lose two games.

Now to put my purple and gold glasses back on and watch as many of these teams as possible and root for them to lose.

There are other one loss teams that have strength of schedule issues that to me are not getting in regardless.

LSUpsychWARD•20 months

Idk why anyone would downvote you. You were literally as objective and homer in the same comment. Cheers to you and let’s hope da tigahs win out and get us another natty!

HarveyTunnel•21 months

If LSU wins out, the Tigers would have three top ten wins and the SEC championship. What other top four team would have that resume? Uh, no one.

cajunmud•21 months

If Harold Perkins would have been the spy on TN's Hooker that I called for the week before the game multiple times, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

We see what he did to Young. The excuse was that he wasn't ready. Well, I would have taken the "half-ready" Perkins we saw against Bama, when we played TN, hands down.

Sissidog02•20 months

We’re trying to have a sports discussion, toot your horn somewhere else, if CBK goes for 2 in game one we are not having this discussion. If say hypothetically they asked for your defensive knowledge in college football we would ABSOLUTELY not be having this discussion.

19•21 months

To be clear, an SEC title in yr 1 suits me just fine.

S•21 months

When we beat uga no one will give a shite about losing to Tennessee in October

DoubleDown•21 months

I think to Greg and others point is, do you put a 2 loss SEC Champ LSU in > a 1 loss UT, especially when UT spanked LSU head to head? I'm not sure LSU even gets in even IF they beat UGA in SEC Champ. LSU needs TCU and Oregon to lose asap.

19•21 months

How do you keep out a 2-Loss SEC Champ if it went thru bama and uga to win it? With a 1-pt. week 1 loss and the other to Fat Josh's group?

DoubleDown•21 months

I dunno, that would be the debate. I'm not saying 1 side is right or wrong, just pointing out the debate that would have to be sorted out by the playoff committee. If you're LSU, you'd have a strong case but if you're a 1 loss Oregon or a TCU, you'd also have a case. Maybe even a 1 loss Michigan OR OSU? I'm here for the chaos.

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skrayper•21 months

I get what Greg is saying (no 2-loss team has made the playoffs), but Auburn almost did in 2017 and would have if they had managed to win the SECCG. LSU would have a very similar trajectory:
Early season OOC loss
Big wins over highly ranked teams to finish the season
Only true difference is that Auburn's losses were close; the big negative in LSU's column is that the Tennessee game was not close. Take that out and the two resumes are pretty similar though. I think LSU gets in if they win out.

Areddishfish•21 months

Greg passionately hates LSU

BregmansWheelbarrow•21 months

In turn, we hate that douchebag. Luckily his disdain means nothing.

theBru•21 months

It's all speculation @ this point in time. Tigers need to prove their worth on the field, like in '07 & being a 2 loss NC.

WhiskeyPlease•21 months

Prove their worth? WTH

WhiskeyPlease•21 months

Shock the world. We coming

Nexus of the Univers•21 months

Through the years we always hear it's the Committee's job to select the 4 best, not necessarily the 4 most deserving but LSU should be good either way.

Most deserving = wins over 3 top ten teams and SEC Champ

4 Best = We just knocked off Georgia (Who else wants some of Debo?)

BhamTigah•21 months

Question is whether the committee thinks like Rece/Greg or Kirk/Joey. I think we would prove to be one of the best 4 at the end of the season, but I also won’t be butthurt if the committee sees it differently. We should have taken care of business early and made it easy for the committee.

Kajuntiger121110•21 months

Kind of an asinine statement there...1st yr of a new head coach that took over a program of back to back 6-6 seasons and only 39 scholarships..id say if they win out, they're in.

FullFontE•21 months

The Rece/Greg tandem have at least one thing in common for them to feel that LSU shouldn’t be in the playoffs, if LSU wins out.

FullFontE•21 months

I honestly don’t think GM would be discussing this if Bama were in LSU’s position.

Blutarsky•21 months

I expect TCU to lose and USC to beat Oregon
1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. USC
4. Georgia

FightinTigersDammit•20 months

Oregon lost to UDub

barry•21 months

They have only two possible options if LSU wins out
1) they put in zero SEC teams
2) they put in LSU + UGA

I’m sorry Tenn, you lost your division, deal with it. There is no universe you leave out a SEC champ with wins over bama and Georgia

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