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Help me decided: Jan. New Zealand OR Jan. Spain/Portugal (2028)
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:00 am
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:00 am
Family of 5. Kids ages 10-15. They’ve traveled to Hawaii, London, Paris as well as extensively in the lower 48.
With crazy sports schedules, early January is our best time to do a big trip.
I’m debating between a Queenstown/Auckland 9-10 day trip OR Portugal/Southern Spain 9 day trip, Jan 2028.
By chance anyone here done both of these and have any thoughts? I really want to go to NZ, but that flight there is somewhat prohibitive. Although you do “gain” time coming back.
With crazy sports schedules, early January is our best time to do a big trip.
I’m debating between a Queenstown/Auckland 9-10 day trip OR Portugal/Southern Spain 9 day trip, Jan 2028.
By chance anyone here done both of these and have any thoughts? I really want to go to NZ, but that flight there is somewhat prohibitive. Although you do “gain” time coming back.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:06 pm to okietiger
Have done and greatly enjoyed both. Iberian Peninsula is great. Lots of culture. Modern Spain is much like the rest of modern Europe. Portugal is more laid back. Add in the Azores and your experience ramps up considerably.
New Zealand is far more about the dramatic and dynamic geography. At the northern end things can be semi-tropical, At the southern end you'll feel that Antarctica isn't far away. The culture is relatively new British colonial. The Maori are a bit more interesting than the Brits. Queensland/Auckland are good choices. We did a week in Auckland, flew to Queensland, rented a car, drove to Christchurch via Dunedin. You can get flights to/from Ca from Christchurch.
For your family, I'd pick New Zealand. It's great and they speak English. You can do Port/Spain anytime in the future.
It can be a pretty miserable travel experience. See if a layover in Hawaii is possible. You can do Port/Spain anytime in the future
New Zealand is far more about the dramatic and dynamic geography. At the northern end things can be semi-tropical, At the southern end you'll feel that Antarctica isn't far away. The culture is relatively new British colonial. The Maori are a bit more interesting than the Brits. Queensland/Auckland are good choices. We did a week in Auckland, flew to Queensland, rented a car, drove to Christchurch via Dunedin. You can get flights to/from Ca from Christchurch.
For your family, I'd pick New Zealand. It's great and they speak English. You can do Port/Spain anytime in the future.
It can be a pretty miserable travel experience. See if a layover in Hawaii is possible. You can do Port/Spain anytime in the future
Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:32 pm to okietiger
Air New Zealand has direct flights out of IAH, 15 hours. I disagree with stopping in Hawaii. You take 8 hours to get to Hawaii, and then (if on OneWorld like AA) you fly Qantas to Australia, and then hop back to NZ. That's beyond misery (over 24 hours from Hawaii). I looked up Delta, and that's OKC-SLC-LAX-Auckland for 20 hours. Not awful, but that's a lot of connections that are putting you at risk in both directions.
At any rate, if you have the time to hit AUS/NZ, take it. When is the next time you're going to be able to carve out time like that with a 16/17 year old? Although, I'll argue to hell and back trips like this trump any tournament in any sport, at any time, unless they have a pro contract.
At any rate, if you have the time to hit AUS/NZ, take it. When is the next time you're going to be able to carve out time like that with a 16/17 year old? Although, I'll argue to hell and back trips like this trump any tournament in any sport, at any time, unless they have a pro contract.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:25 pm to okietiger
One thing is January is prime summer season in New Zealand. I'd aim for there over spain/Portugal just for the month you're going
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:57 pm to okietiger
I haven't been to Auckland, but I spent a week in the Queenstown area in 2019 with girls 14 and 13 years old, and we had an awesome time hiking the Routeburn Trek and also to the Mueller Hut near Mt. Cook. Milford Sound is spectacular, and the glowworm cave at Te Anau was great. Great trip.
I haven't been southern Spain or Portugal since 1992, but I was in Lisbon and the Azores twice in the last 10 years. The Azores might be my favorite place on Planet Earth (and I've traveled to 46 countries), but the weather is terrible in January and I can't recommend it. I just, in general, don't think that January is a good time to go anywhere in Spain or Portugal. The average low temp in Grenada in January is 35 degrees.
I haven't been southern Spain or Portugal since 1992, but I was in Lisbon and the Azores twice in the last 10 years. The Azores might be my favorite place on Planet Earth (and I've traveled to 46 countries), but the weather is terrible in January and I can't recommend it. I just, in general, don't think that January is a good time to go anywhere in Spain or Portugal. The average low temp in Grenada in January is 35 degrees.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:56 am to okietiger
I would normally recommend New Zealand over most places, but that's a rough flight and bad jetlag with three kids and only 8 or 9 days on the ground. TBH, Spain is probably a safer bet.
One tip I will give you, I have twice flown from LAX to Australia/New Zealand on the night of New Years Eve and both times the plane was over half empty so I had an entire middle row to myself to lay down and sleep. I think a lot of people just want to be somewhere to celebrate New Years so they avoid this particular flight.
A good alternative to the South Island of New Zealand, if you're interested in a nature/outdoorsy trip, could be Argentina - Patagonia. Also Summer down there in January, no jetlag and prices are much cheaper.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 1:12 pm to AUFANATL
That's good feedback.
My parents went to Patagonia and loved it. That's a great option to consider!
My parents went to Patagonia and loved it. That's a great option to consider!
Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:21 pm to AUFANATL
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plane was over half empty so I had an entire middle row to myself to lay down and sleep.
I took a Singapore 5th freedom flight from IAH to MAN, and booked premium economy. This was a mistake, because premium economy didn't have movable armrests, even though both premium economy and economy were probably 25% full. Regular economy were all sleeping across rows, I was stuck.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:38 am to okietiger
Wife and I spent this past January in Sevilla, Spain
It rained almost every single day and the weather was 40's-50's on average straight through.
We had a great time but the weather was a bummer
Since you mentioned January specifically, based on the weather, I'd choose NZ
It rained almost every single day and the weather was 40's-50's on average straight through.
We had a great time but the weather was a bummer
Since you mentioned January specifically, based on the weather, I'd choose NZ
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:20 am to HarrisonTown
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Wife and I spent this past January in Sevilla, Spain
It rained almost every single day and the weather was 40's-50's on average straight through.
I guess I got lucky but I was there around NYE years ago and it was pretty in both Barcelona and Seville. Sunny all day, maybe a light jacket unless you were in the sun light which got you hot enough to take off. In Seville, cold at night in the 40s.
This really depends on what OP is trying to do. I might want to save vacation in Spain/Portugal for a period that's more suitable for kid activities.
This post was edited on 8/12/26 at 8:38 am
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:56 am to Teddy Ruxpin
To be fair, people said it was unusual to have THIS MUCH rain so steadily.
Once bitten, twice shy, personally I'll go back during a different time period even if my last experience was an anomaly.
Would still recommend NZ to OP if in January
Once bitten, twice shy, personally I'll go back during a different time period even if my last experience was an anomaly.
Would still recommend NZ to OP if in January
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:25 pm to okietiger
New Zealand in 2028 and Spain/portugal in 2030 for the World Cup
Posted on 8/13/26 at 4:45 am to okietiger
New Zealand is a long way to go for a less than 2 week trip.
I’m not a great traveler so others may enjoy it for a shorter duration.
I’m not a great traveler so others may enjoy it for a shorter duration.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 10:59 am to okietiger
Want to go but never been to New Zealand, but I can say weather-wise Jan is not the best time to visit Spain/Portugal for a pleasure trip.
And to the folks who say 10 days is too short for NZ, yes its not ideal but its easily doable, plus your kids are at an age where they can deal with the time change/travel. Most families with kids that age will never be able to find 2 or 3 weeks for a trip like that, if that is family bucket-list trip, you have the money to pull it off, and everyone is available, go for NZ.
And to the folks who say 10 days is too short for NZ, yes its not ideal but its easily doable, plus your kids are at an age where they can deal with the time change/travel. Most families with kids that age will never be able to find 2 or 3 weeks for a trip like that, if that is family bucket-list trip, you have the money to pull it off, and everyone is available, go for NZ.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 8:31 pm to okietiger
Don't spend more time in Auckland then you have to
Posted on 8/17/26 at 5:23 am to okietiger
I lived in Queenstown for 6 months and my wife is from NZ, so I’m biased. I haven’t been to Europe - take that for what you will - but New Zealand:
1. Is an English-speaking country
2. Safer than most European countries
3. Has more natural beauty (tropical island vibes in the North Island; mountains in the South Island)
4. Has more beautiful hikes that everyone can enjoy
5. Tourism is one of their main industries so there is public restrooms and campsites literally everywhere you go
Everyone and their brother complains about the flights, but it’s not bad. If the single mom with two kids can do it, you can too. Plus, if you fly Air New Zealand, it’s a first-class experience.
I would do one week in the North Island and one in the South Island. Don’t spend more than two days in Auckland (I wouldn’t spend a day but that’s just me), though it is a wonderful city that makes most of our cities in the US look like crap.
The South is where it’s at. Less Maoris (no offense but it is what it is) and more mountains. You can go to the Marlborough region for some wine, Mount Cook to see a mountain with glaciers, Queenstown for a cool resort town, Wanaka for more mountains, Dunedin for an older city with rich Scottish roots, Invercargil because you can (people from Queenstown scoff at the place because you can’t ski or mountain bike there but they have a stunning public garden), Milford Sound for some beautiful waterfalls, Stewart Island to see a kiwi (bird not fruit), and the West Coast for some scenic ocean driving.
Honestly, I would spend two weeks just in the South Island. Get a Campervan for one week and camp anywhere and everywhere.
With all that said, people who live their life not seeing New Zealand miss seeing a country that God took extra time to create and is a shame.
1. Is an English-speaking country
2. Safer than most European countries
3. Has more natural beauty (tropical island vibes in the North Island; mountains in the South Island)
4. Has more beautiful hikes that everyone can enjoy
5. Tourism is one of their main industries so there is public restrooms and campsites literally everywhere you go
Everyone and their brother complains about the flights, but it’s not bad. If the single mom with two kids can do it, you can too. Plus, if you fly Air New Zealand, it’s a first-class experience.
I would do one week in the North Island and one in the South Island. Don’t spend more than two days in Auckland (I wouldn’t spend a day but that’s just me), though it is a wonderful city that makes most of our cities in the US look like crap.
The South is where it’s at. Less Maoris (no offense but it is what it is) and more mountains. You can go to the Marlborough region for some wine, Mount Cook to see a mountain with glaciers, Queenstown for a cool resort town, Wanaka for more mountains, Dunedin for an older city with rich Scottish roots, Invercargil because you can (people from Queenstown scoff at the place because you can’t ski or mountain bike there but they have a stunning public garden), Milford Sound for some beautiful waterfalls, Stewart Island to see a kiwi (bird not fruit), and the West Coast for some scenic ocean driving.
Honestly, I would spend two weeks just in the South Island. Get a Campervan for one week and camp anywhere and everywhere.
With all that said, people who live their life not seeing New Zealand miss seeing a country that God took extra time to create and is a shame.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:45 pm to olehickory1767
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Honestly, I would spend two weeks just in the South Island.
I've been there 4 times, probably my favorite place in the world. If I go again I won't spend any time on the north island, as nice as it is. The south island is just stunning. I'd find a way to get to Stewart Island (beautiful but limited options for lodging, so book early (definitely hire a local guide for a kiwi tour at night)), and then work up to Nelson/Picton on the north which has a very California vibe going with all the wineries and sailing and sunny weather. Milford Sound and Mt. Cook are must do spots. The west coast drive is pretty great. If I had to live in a place other than the US it would be Kaikoura (2 hour drive north of Christchurch) with it's rugged coastline, snow capped mountains, and an ocean full of wildlife. Beautiful little town.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:54 am to okietiger
Queenstown is awesome. Make sure you do a jetboat ride on the shotover river, and if youre adventurous enough, bungee jump at the Kawarau River Bridge. Very cool things to do on top of the mountain too, including riding tricycle like thing (not sure what you call it) down the mountain. Also make sure to do a boat ride in Milford Sound. Breathtaking.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 12:20 pm to okietiger
quote:Can be very cold and rainy.
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