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YouTube TV goes up in price yet drops sports channels

Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:17 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125401 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:17 pm
Had that price hike two months ago for channels no one wants but today dropped regional fox sports channels
Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
3907 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:26 pm to
I came to this board, because I just turned on YTTV and had a message that regional fox sports channels are gone. I'm going to check out hulu live now.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61479 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:38 pm to
It's going to get worse as more people cut the cord. Networks and cable companies will try to make up for the smaller audiences by raising prices, which of course will cause cord cutting to accelerate...
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:41 pm to
Hey maybe this means they’ll drop their price.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2720 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:45 pm to
No one wanted Comedy Central, paramount, nfl network?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48472 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 6:58 pm to
We'll be back at cable prices before long with added internet data caps.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125401 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:02 pm to
No one wanted mtv and the other bullshite that came along with it
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 7:03 pm
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10026 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:08 pm to
There’s other choices. No matter what channeled YouTube is missing or how much it is, you have to have it” on here just like a pixel, gogole Fi, etc I don’t get it.
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
5983 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:38 pm to
Yeah, they were really dumb for that last price hike. I just put mine on pause yesterday. I was happy about being able to watch Yellowstone, but don't really care about anything else that came with the viacom deal
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 8:39 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48935 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:13 pm to
these streaming services are dumb to get their prices up near cable.

may as well just get the basic cable package
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:28 pm to
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these streaming services are dumb to get their prices up near cable.

may as well just get the basic cable package
I think it's inevitable that Hulu won't also raise their price in the next 6 months. And then it will be about the cost of cable and defeat the purpose of cord cutting.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:43 am to
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these streaming services are dumb to get their prices up near cable.
They're not dumb, they just have to make a profit. The content and channel owners have everyone by the balls with all the channel bundling and bidding wars.


I called this a few years back when there were fewer players in streaming (Sling was the biggest name at the time, before YTTV, Hulu live, Vue, etc got big). It's kind of a perverse market where more competition creates higher prices. If there is just one streaming provider, then they will get 100% of streaming customers and the content/channel owners just have to get whatever price they can get. The provider either pays or they don't. Then the more streaming services there are, that's just more players to bid the prices up. The content/channel owners have all the leverage, and every time a contract runs out for a provider they have to pay whatever the new going rate is or they don't get the channels. And if they don't get the channels people want, they die.

And in the meantime there's always consolidation happening among content/channel owners, so the bundles just get bigger and more expensive.



So the price hikes were inevitable during this "phase 1" of cord-cutting, where the TV services were decoupled from the delivery medium. And that's good and necessary, but hopefully phase 2 will begin soon, and the demands to bust the bundles get louder and we get true a la carte TV soon. Consumers won't really benefit until that happens. Channels and content need to live and die on their own merit and quality instead of piggybacking in a bundle with a bunch of other crap.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5360 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 10:29 am to
Muh cord cutting
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
2303 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 11:01 am to
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may as well just get the basic cable package


I went back to Comcast. Much cheaper and better quality.

I get 1 gig internet plus over 200 channels (all of the channels on yttv) for $105 month.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 11:16 am to
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I went back to Comcast. Much cheaper and better quality.

I get 1 gig internet plus over 200 channels (all of the channels on yttv) for $105 month.
That's a good deal given the current streaming options, but personally I will never go back to cable just on principle. I will never forgive decades of swindles. I'll do without before I give another dime to cox, at&t, etc.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96012 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:37 pm to
Is there a 2 year contract and the price increases after year 1?
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39186 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:54 pm to
The dumb part is adding all the extra channels. People are dropping cable because they have 150 channels they don't watch. If a streaming service would come out with a smaller package of 30 or so channels, and keep it at that, they could keep their prices down even if its the 30 most popular channels.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16922 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 2:59 pm to
I don’t care for fox regional channels... I did want paramount for Yellowstone, nick and nick jr for kids
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 3:25 pm to
Yep. I don't know anything about how much the streaming service providers are paying, but I know that every time my employer has to renegotiate contracts with viacom on the other large entities, they raise a pricing on their content 50 to 75% at a minimum every. Single. Time. And my employer is powerless to stop it

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 dumb part is adding all the extra channels. People are dropping cable because they have 150 channels they don't watch. If a streaming service would come out with a smaller package of 30 or so channels, and keep it at that, they could keep their prices down even if its the 30 most popular channels.


Unfortunately, there's really not an a la carte option. The large channel providers bundle channels together and Force TV providers to get channels they don't really want in order to get channels they do really want.
This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 3:28 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61479 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 4:18 pm to
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The dumb part is adding all the extra channels.


I think it's just a volume business where the only way to handle the costs is to keep growing the subscriber base which these companies believe means adding more channels to broaden the appeal. FuboTV started out as a $30 a month sports only streamer, now it's a $65 a month normal streamer, they don't even have the $30 sports only option anymore.
This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 4:18 pm
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