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What to do with HDMI cords that are 10 years old?

Posted on 1/28/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21952 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 3:34 pm
Are there technology improvements in HDMI cord such that cords that are 10 years old are not worth keeping around? I seem to have accumulated a bunch of unused HDMI cords and I'm tired of looking at them. Keep them in a bin or throw them away?
Posted by BAMBAM
Biloxi, MS
Member since Mar 2008
2364 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 3:53 pm to
ID say keep one or two if you have a cheap tv DVD player combo in your bedrooms. As far as technology goes if your using the max 4K -“/ stereo capabilities you’ll have to upgrade.

Like if you have a new Xbox or play station I’m pretty sure a 10yo hdmi won’t work.
Posted by TygerB8
Youngsville
Member since Jul 2005
1348 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 4:25 pm to
My HDMI cord (~35 ft run) in my wall is ~10 yrs old, but I also still use a ~10 yr old plasma.

I will hopefully be upgrading to 4k OLED TV in next few months. Any HDMI recs or must haves for such a TV? (I'm looking at these cables from monoprice. They are in wall rated and HDCP 2.2 compliant)

Thanks
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6551 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 4:40 pm to
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I will hopefully be upgrading to 4k OLED TV in next few months. Any HDMI recs or must haves for such a TV? (I'm looking at these cables from monoprice. They are in wall rated and HDCP 2.2 compliant)


I have same question.. Hanging a TCL 55R635 on the wall tonight, but the HDMI cable running thru the wall is about 7 years old.

Also pairing it with a PS5 if I can ever get one..

not sure if I need to be stressing new cables or not
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2282 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 6:05 pm to
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Chicken


Aren’t you a multi millionaire from selling koozies? Just buy new!
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77929 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 6:53 pm to
I would likely toss them.

New cables are cheap
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:20 pm to
I’d toss them
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6823 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 7:17 am to
They are perfectly fine. They will move a digital signal just as effectively as a new cable. All the hype about premium cables is just that, marketing hype.
Posted by SG_Geaux
1 Post
Member since Aug 2004
77929 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:50 am to
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They are perfectly fine. They will move a digital signal just as effectively as a new cable. All the hype about premium cables is just that, marketing hype.


Well that is just not true since the HDMI spec has changed over the years.
Posted by LSU Jonno
Huntsville, AL
Member since Feb 2008
579 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:25 am to
They are probably fine to keep. Yes the HDMI spec has changed, but that doesn't mean your cables won't work.

Cables are just dumb copper. Old cables weren't "certified" to the new spec because it didn't exist when the cables were originally tested. But they'll likely work just fine.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6823 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:10 am to
The specs that have changed are in the data stream, not the actual copper that moves it.

An HDMI cable is just 2 HDMI connectors joined by a shielded copper wire.
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2357 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 12:17 pm to
Throw them away if you don't need them. I am all about being a minimalist and getting rid of things you don't need or are tired of looking at.

The newer HDMI cables have higher transfer rates and performance is only noticeable if you have a high-end 4K TV.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:00 pm to
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The specs that have changed are in the data stream, not the actual copper that moves it.

An HDMI cable is just 2 HDMI connectors joined by a shielded copper wire.
Mostly true, but there are differences between cables. Similar to ethernet cable, the HDMI specs define 3 different categories of cables.

True probably any cable in the last 10 years will work with 4k, and probably even older category 1 ("standard speed") cables will do it. But the only way to know for sure is to try it.


Edit: Yeah there's a whole lot of bullshite marketing in the cable market, but "standard", "high speed", and "ultra high speed" cables are real things.
This post was edited on 1/30/21 at 1:04 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77945 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:46 pm to
I bought a few redmere and hdmi+ethernet cables the last time I made a big monoprice order.

I have no idea to this day what actually takes advantage of ethernet being built into hdmi.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 7:01 pm to
I think they added ethernet as a why-the-frick-not decision, and it never really caught on I guess because turns out networking is kind of complicated. I think they're trying to repurpose the ethernet for eARC.
Posted by dlambe5
Prairieville
Member since Jul 2009
625 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

They are perfectly fine. They will move a digital signal just as effectively as a new cable. All the hype about premium cables is just that, marketing hype.


Agreed. Just bought a new house and upgraded a few TVs with Sonos system. Use my old cables with no issues (8-10 years old). Using cable that came with Sonos for HDMI ARC. Haven’t had a single issue.
This post was edited on 1/30/21 at 10:29 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45704 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 12:47 am to
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The newer HDMI cables have higher transfer rates and performance is only noticeable if you have a high-end 4K TV.
The newer cables that are tested for high speed data rates carry a label only if they pay the HDMI licensing fee to be able to state that. This is coming from me, someone who actually worked for an HDMI cable manufacturer.

They ALL transport the same 1's and 0's as any other cable. The difference is how well they will shield the signal from electromagnetic interferences and that the amplitude will pass that digital eye so that it doesn't clip or exceed the top and bottom end of the cable's capabilities. If you start seeing sparkles in your image, change cables. If not, your cable is working just fine.

Think of it as electrical cable. At a long enough length, attenuation creates resistance, and transformers are used to keep the strength up. In cables, same thing applies, so as long as attenuation is mitigated, by either short cable lengths or by thicker gauge wire or by electronically manipulating the signal with boosters, the other end doesn't care about anything except 1's and 0's. Period.

*I worked for the ex CTO and VP of Sales for Monster Cable when they left to start a venture capital competitor and can tell you with full confidence: cheap cables will perform as well as expensive cables depending on the conditions. Wrap cheap cables in with electrical cables and expect poor performance because they generally don't shield against EMI very well. Keep them separated and you should be fine. More expensive cables should (but not always) have better attenuation loss performance and better ability to hold the top and bottom end of the signal due to better EMI shielding.
This post was edited on 1/31/21 at 1:00 am
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1381 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 8:21 am to
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What to do with HDMI cords that are 10 years old?


Sell them to antiquetiger.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6823 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:55 am to
This is my understanding as well. Thank you for confirming.
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2357 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:43 am to
Wow yea you know more about HDMI cords than anyone I've ever seen.

You definitely don't meet HDMI gurus everyday.
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