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The speakers will never be as good in a soundbar as a real AVR setup.

People pay upwards of $1000/speaker on top of the AVR. You are not getting that quality of a speaker in a soundbar.

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I disagree except in the case of audiophile entertainment rooms which have to be built with the acoustics in mind from the beginning as well as selecting high end speakers.

I'm using "soundbar" to refer to not only the single bar that sits in front of your TV but also the wireless satellites and sub that come with higher end models.

Its all about the software and tuning the sound for the speakers that are integrated; not pairing an AVR with the latest 'surround decimal number of the month' club. what are we up to now? 9.2.4? c'mon man.

The integration (software + hardware) is going to be the killer app for soundbars over traditional AVR getups.



eta this is for the consumer mass market. i realize there are a few audiophiles on here who welcome the challenges and costs associated with stringing up 9 speakers and the non-stop AVR merry-go-round as you keep having to trash your old one on an almost yearly basis to keep up with the changes in both video & audio. i was one of the people on that carousel. i threw away 4 AVRs that were perfectly fine but lacked a crucial piece of tech that came with my new TV that required all new hardware.

*sigh* they need to finish getting 4K rounded out before jumping to 8K.

can't wait for dolby to hit us with a new round of audio & video standards for 8K that won't show up for another 2 years so we have to trash our 'early adopter' TCL 8K tvs.

I have a vizio sound bar on my tcl 65 and it works great

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non-stop AVR merry-go-round as you keep having to trash your old one on an almost yearly basis to keep up with the changes in both video & audio

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If you future proof enough you shouldn’t have to do this.

I just built a home theater in a spare bedroom, the room is a terrible acoustics for a home theater, but it sounds absolutely amazing. No sound bar can possibly get close to it.

That being said, all in just on the audio, I spent $2,750 so there absolutely are price restrictions. But I think the biggest thing I’ve noticed after talking to a lot of people about it is that most people just simply don’t care about the audio as much as other. And there is nothing wrong with that. It’s like a hobby. I enjoy it, but I know it’s not for everyone. And if someone like the way a soundbar sounds then good for them. It’s all about your personal preference. It is YOUR viewing experience at the end of the day.

I'm in the market for a new TV (currently have a Panasonic Plasma (TC-P60ST30) that I really like and will move to another room). My budget is up to $1,500 and looking in the 65" range. In addition to the TCL 6 Series mini-LED, should I also be considering TCL 8 series mini-LED...it is $1,125 at Best Buy but I'm not sure I saw it discussed in this thread.

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