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re: So Microsoft is ending all support for Windows 10 in October...
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:10 am to notsince98
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:10 am to notsince98
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AND with gaming really making a push into Linux
thinking this has anything to do with it But OP, it's 8 damn machines. Buy windows 11 compatible replacements, and try to recoup the funds by reselling those old workstations
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 9:11 am
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:40 am to bluebarracuda
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thinking this has anything to do with it
It absolutely plays a role. Gaming forces hardware support/driver development for the OS. The more cutting edge hardware/features are available in an OS, the more people are willing to consider it. One of the long fought issues Linux had was lack of hardware support, especially for new hardware but now days Nvidia, Intel and AMD are being pushed more and more into full fledged support of the Linux platform.
Now Steam is developing a gaming Linux distro. If more and more people start dumping $3k into expensive gaming systems and then running Linux, everyone else is going to want to have their software available on the platform, too.
Gaming has long been a big driver for hardware development and OS development.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:20 am to TigerGman
I hear Linux Mint is a good Linux distro that maintains a Windows like interface and feel.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:26 am to chryso
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Microsoft may screw up here and chase a lot of people to Linux.
I'll be making my first dive into Linux this summer probably because of it. I've got an old laptop that I use for Plex and HomeAssistant that I have zero intention of upgrading.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:29 am to LSUGent
quote:It's not so much the look and feel that is the roadblock, it's software support. The major one is MS Office compatibility. Hopefully that continues to be less of an issue as more move to the cloud apps. The browser is becoming the OS so the host OS doesn't matter as much.
I hear Linux Mint is a good Linux distro that maintains a Windows like interface and feel.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:52 am to LSUGent
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I hear Linux Mint is a good Linux distro that maintains a Windows like interface and feel.
There are many good ones. KDE Neon is another one that is probably the most windows like as it uses KDE Plasma GUI.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:54 am to Korkstand
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The major one is MS Office compatibility.
That isn't a problem for personal use as Libre Office and Open Office have filled that gap for years now. I dont know if you can get a commercial license for those, though.
But to your other point, Office365, Google Docs, etc... the cloud based office apps that just run in a browser make it a moot point.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:35 pm to TigerGman
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only one is upgraded capable to Windows 11
Only one is officially upgrade capable probably meaning tpm2. You can still upgrade anything 5th-6th gen or newer just fine with a couple tricks right off of the Microsoft site unless they took that away in the last 6 months. There are security concerns that could one day become severe but are safe enough right now for responsibly managed systems. There are equally great concerns with some “authorized” hardware. Main thing is keeping updated.
Other options for $100:
-8th gen latitude edit “precision”
-n200 box
I feel you pain though. New “secure” stuff can be prohibitively expensive. My home server is dual broadwell but not running windows and not anywhere near my financial data.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:14 pm to Dallaswho
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There are security concerns that could one day become severe but are safe enough right now for responsibly managed systems.
Yeah, I read a few comments that seem to say when you hack the system to accept 11. It then won't let you do routine 11 updates, which still leaves you unsecured, but I wasn't sure if that was accurate, and I haven't had time to look it up.
Also I need Win 11 Pro.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:48 am to TigerGman
quote:i'm a scarred veteran of doing shite like this.
Yeah, I read a few comments that seem to say when you hack the system to accept 11. It then won't let you do routine 11 updates, which still leaves you unsecured, but I wasn't sure if that was accurate, and I haven't had time to look it up.
it always follows the same pattern:
- find a workaround 'gray area' hack that everyone swears is the answer
- jump through 70 hoops to get said hack to work
- sit back, smile, take a sip of your bourbon after it seems to work and pat yourself on the back
- find problems, fix them..fix them...fix them...
- swear and scream when the loophole is closed after months of keeping everything cobbled together and all that hard work goes down the drain
so no thank you. as someone else in this thread mentioned, cheaper in time and money just to buy a new computer...which fricking sucks.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:04 am to CAD703X
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heaper in time and money just to buy a new computer...which fricking sucks.
Or go linux. In all seriousness it does everything the home user needs now days. I'm running PCs that are 10-15 years old and feel snappy/new with a beautiful GUI. And for home server applications like Plex, VPN hosting, network file sharing, torrenting, etc, Linux is waaaay better than windows.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:06 am to TigerGman
MSFT is awful as a company. They EOL literally everything they have made and turn whatever you bought into a brick if you wait long enough. I only have a PC left for gaming.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:15 am to The Scofflaw
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MSFT is awful as a company. They EOL literally everything they have made and turn whatever you bought into a brick if you wait long enough. I only have a PC left for gaming.
It's almost like none of you work in corporate environments
Windows 10 lasted 10 years. I would love to get that kind of support from some of my Cisco equipment
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:39 am to TAMU-93
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Get a Mac.
Your solution to having to buy a new computer is.. buy a new computer? Brilliant.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:30 pm to notsince98
i know. all my geeky friends say the same thing. thing is i *JUST* migrated Plex to new hardware and migrated to a new torrent client (while keeping several hundred seeds intact) and it was P*I*T*A*
not looking forward to doing that again for both and learning a new OS at the same time.
too old for this shite applies here.
not looking forward to doing that again for both and learning a new OS at the same time.
too old for this shite applies here.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:41 pm to CAD703X
quote:Baremetal install? If so you're doing it wrong!
thing is i *JUST* migrated Plex to new hardware and migrated to a new torrent client (while keeping several hundred seeds intact) and it was P*I*T*A*
Doubt anyone remembers or cares, but a while back I talked about a "hyperconverged" proxmox cluster w/ceph. There is a learning curve for sure, but once I got that set up everything else has been a breeze. I have at this point 7 machines of various specs and form factors in the cluster, and I can add or decommission one at any time. The "hyperconverged" part basically just means they share storage via ceph in addition to being a proxmox cluster.
Anyways, my plex container (lightweight VM) is backed by ceph block storage, and it accesses media stored in CephFS (so that other containers like the *arrs can write to it), so I can migrate plex to different hardware at will, and it happens almost instantly since the ceph block storage and media filesystem are accessible from any node in the cluster.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 2:16 pm to lostinbr
The OP chuckled. You'd have to know his post history to be in on the joke.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 2:46 pm to TAMU-93
There is not a snowball chance in hell an office environment is going to Linux for its users. So stop with that option.
Just bite the bullet and buy some new shite before October.
Just bite the bullet and buy some new shite before October.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:38 pm to ColdDuck
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There is not a snowball chance in hell an office environment is going to Linux for its users.
Interesting claim. Not talking servers... Google does it. Amazon does it. Netflix does it. Just to name a few doing it on a massive scale for office PCs.
Multiple government agencies use it on PCs. NASA does it. City of Munich.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:36 pm to ColdDuck
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There is not a snowball chance in hell an office environment is going to Linux for its users. So stop with that option.
Just out of spite I’m going to test drive 2-4 users on Mint, Fedora over the next few weeks and report back.
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