re: Pissing match intensifies: Google yanks YouTube from fire TV Amazon yanks nest

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find the item for the same price and free shipping

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If you're willing to wait more than 2 days. Amazon has us trained to think anything less than 2 day delivery is beneath us.

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Is this about competing products or money/app sales commission like it was with Apple? This is the only leverage they have on Google so I can kind of understand going to this extreme as a negotiating tactic.

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I'm not sure what you're referring to with Apple, but the way I understand it is this: Amazon recognizes the potential of smart home devices, particularly how they can drive sales of other stuff through Amazon. If you have an Echo, you will be more likely to buy from Amazon than if you have Google Home. If you have a FireTV, you will be more likely to subscribe to Prime and buy other digital products from Amazon than if you have a Chromecast (though I'm not sure why they have no problem selling Rokus).

The bottom line is, I don't think it's about just shutting down competing products from Google. It's about creating a walled garden for EVERYTHING we buy like Apple has done with their products. If Amazon can integrate itself into all of our devices/lives, that will generate enormous growth for Amazon's core business of selling everything else to us.

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This may be incorrect. Some people say that the first event was Google not allowing Google Maps and something else on Amazon tablets. Could be wrong, but before blaming someone we should all get the facts.

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The thing about Amazon tablets is they do run Android (produced by Google), but they have forked and heavily customized it. They don't even put Google's Play Store on them, they have created their own app store. So considering the OS is so heavily modified, and Amazon controls the app store, Google has no way to know whether users are getting a quality experience. I don't blame them at all for not allowing their apps on FireOS.

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This is super annoying though because what do you do? Especially if you've bought into one ecosystem or another.

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I do have an echo dot and a firestick, but personally I try to avoid the vendor lock-in of "ecosystems", and this little spat has strengthened my resolve.

I have long been a supporter of open source, open platforms, and open standards. Vendor lock-in is a bitch, and it always results in higher costs for consumers. Not only do we get locked in to ecosystems, but companies either shut down or end support for cloud services that their "smart" devices rely on, then we have to start over with a new system.

If anything positive comes of this, it will be that we as consumers start demanding more open systems and products that don't rely on the whims and pissing matches between companies.

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If you're willing to wait more than 2 days. Amazon has us trained to think anything less than 2 day delivery is beneath us.

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for y'all with prime memberships

I always thought this was dumb.

Aside from Confederate flags I'm not sure Amazon censors any other products.

Eta they certainly have a rich and vibrant selection of sex toys

This is terrible. Amazon is going to hear lots of complaints about no longer having YouTube

Just use the native YouTube app built into your smart TV or buy a $15 Chromecast on Craigslist