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Pissing match intensifies: Google yanks YouTube from fire TV Amazon yanks nest

Posted on 12/5/17 at 5:39 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77940 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 5:39 pm
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We’ve been trying to reach agreement with Amazon to give consumers access to each other's products and services. But Amazon doesn't carry Google products like Chromecast and Google Home, doesn't make Prime Video available for Google Cast users, and last month stopped selling some of Nest's latest products. Given this lack of reciprocity, we are no longer supporting YouTube on Echo Show and FireTV. We hope we can reach an agreement to resolve these issues soon.”
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 5:40 pm
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 5:45 pm to
And the only one who suffers is the consumer.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8311 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:21 pm to
Pretty much
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89701 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:29 pm to
Ridiculous. Glad I moved to a Roku.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30676 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 8:05 pm to
My firetv says starting on 1/1/18.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 8:08 pm
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:41 pm to
Sounds like Amazon is being bitch for starting the tension. Their anti-competitive actions are going to get them trouble soon.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43458 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:50 pm to
Im gonna be pissed if I lose access to YouTube. That's 90% of what I watch on the firestick
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25544 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:00 am to
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Ridiculous. Glad I moved to a Roku.


This type of action is why I chose to move to Roku when I shifted over to 4K capable streaming. The lack of iTunes support didn't bother me which made the Roku Ultra an easy choice.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89701 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:43 am to
Yeah I have an Ultra too, perfect device.

The Roku IOS app does screen sharing fyi
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4370 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:56 am to
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The Roku IOS app does screen sharing fyi


I didn't know this. My only Roku is about 5 or 6 years old so it's pretty limiting. I can't even install the DirecTV now app. I may go ahead and replace it with a new Roku. I have 3 TVs with firetv/sticks and one with the old Roku.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:30 am to
Amazon going down in flames...ok, maybe not that bad, but certainly not the amazon it used to be

* shipping sucks 1/2 the time
* some items even ship directly from China and take weeks
* sales tax
* won't carry competitors products

They've gone from being totally consumer oriented to playing strategic games. the door is wide open for walmart and jet to eat at their market share
Posted by GurleyGirl
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Member since Nov 2015
13161 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:26 am to
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* shipping sucks 1/2 the time
* some items even ship directly from China and take weeks
* sales tax
* won't carry competitors products


Never had a problem with Amazon shipping
Then don't buy items shipped directly from China; I don't.
Every online store that I run into now has sales tax. It's a government thing. Did they really have a choice?
I agree that this isn't a good thing but you can always buy the competitors products from those competitors. Do the competitors sell Amazon's products?
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 11:57 am
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:39 am to
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Do the competitors sell Amazon's products?


Yes they do. You can buy echos, echo dots, etc on google's express store.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12847 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:46 am to
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Do the competitors sell Amazon's products?
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Yes they do. You can buy echos, echo dots, etc on google's express store.

That just seems dumb.

That's like walking into Gap and asking for a Gucci sweater.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:52 am to
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Yes they do. You can buy echos, echo dots, etc on google's express store.
That is just basically an index/search engine for other stores.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:53 am to
I don't think comparing online stores like amazon and google that basically sell everything under the sun to brick and mortar specific stores is a very good analogy.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:55 am to
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Amazon going down in flames...ok, maybe not that bad, but certainly not the amazon it used to be


You may not like the trade offs as they grow, but they're failing all the way to the top.

I do think Amazon is making a strategic mistake by being so walled off. Alexa is their backdoor into everything, even google devices, but they need to make it work well on all devices.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:57 am to
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Yes they do. You can buy echos, echo dots, etc on google's express store.
That is just basically an index/search engine for other stores.



True its not exactly the same as shopping on Amazon as Amazon is the king of that hill. But google also has software technology like youtube that was offered on amazon devices while Amazon was not reciprocating the gesture.

I think its petty both ways but its hard to fault google for keeping an open market and eventually getting frustrated when Amazon refused to do the same.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12847 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:18 am to
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I don't think comparing online stores like amazon and google that basically sell everything under the sun to brick and mortar specific stores is a very good analogy.

Well, sure, but when it comes to their own products, I do. I would find it weird now that Google sells their alexa type devices to ALSO included all the different Amazon Alexa devices and vice versa.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:39 am to
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I think its petty both ways but its hard to fault google for keeping an open market and eventually getting frustrated when Amazon refused to do the same.

Agree it's petty both ways, and I also agree that Amazon is the instigator and is mostly at fault. It's not a good look for Amazon to sell everything under the sun except for products from Google. Amazon owns tons of brands that sell everything from food to clothes to electronics, but they don't pull products from other brands that compete with them.
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