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re: Is $1,000 for a phone that ridiculous?
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:32 pm to lsuconnman
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:32 pm to lsuconnman
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I just got a new iPad Pro with apple care and it was nearly same price. I started thinking, and the phone is 2/3 of what it would cost me to replace my 6 year old MacBook.
You'd likely use your new phone much often than either of these though.
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:48 pm to BilJ
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$1,000 but has a life of about 18 months, I think that's why you're seeing push back
again, still using my 3.5 year old 6+
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:12 pm to Parmen
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As a proud iPhone X owner, the only people crying about the price are poor people
Keep this garbage on the OT. Compared to their cost to build, it's absolutely ridiculous. That higher capacity memory chip doesn't cost them an extra 150 bucks.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:22 pm to h0bnail
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Compared to their cost to build
Yet you have no idea how much they spent to engineer that phone
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:48 pm to bluebarracuda
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Yet you have no idea how much they spent to engineer that phone
I'm sure it was a lot, considering all of the game changing new features.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:12 pm to bluebarracuda
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They're powerful computational devices that fit in your pocket. You pay the premium for its size
No.
No.
No.
the Ipad mini, which is barely bigger than an iphone, does basically everything an Iphone does, yet costs half the price.
Iphones cost what they costs, b/c morons are willing to pay for it. It's literally that simple.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:31 pm to TeddyPadillac
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the Ipad mini, which is barely bigger than an iphone
Yet one still fits in your pocket, and the other doesn't. The 2.2" difference is quite large.
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does basically everything an Iphone does
Since when can you communicate with other cell phones via voice? It takes substantially shittier pictures, worse processing power, and a lower PPI display.
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yet costs half the price.
And it's 2.5 years old. The 10" iPad Pro with LTE is $750, which shows you pay the premium for the more portable device
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:55 pm to NewBootGoofin
Food for thought: cell phones were over 1000 in the 90s. Also, we out our phones through hell. They don't sit one nice air conditioned room. The life span isn't that far off
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:01 pm to bluebarracuda
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Yet you have no idea how much they spent to engineer that phone
less than this?
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:11 pm to NewBootGoofin
quote:The most "innovative" part about it is they figured out how to get fools to part with even more of their money. Hell, I feel foolish having bought a $650 phone.
The whole point of it all is innovation though.
Look, you asked if $1k for a phone is ridiculous, and I said yes. You say no. Don't try to convince me that I'm wrong, because it's a subjective question.
You didn't ask if the price of a $1k phone is justified by what it can do, or by its quality, or by anything pertaining to its value. I might have said yes. You didn't ask if it's worth the money for what it is. I might have said yes. You didn't ask if the price is fair considering the cost of materials, labor, and R&D. I might have said yes. You asked if $1k for a phone is ridiculous. And I said it is.
IMO the higher price ranges of any type of product are ridiculous. But if it's worth it to you, buy it. If it makes you feel good about yourself, buy it.
But if you want other people to validate your purchase and they don't, don't argue and try to convince them. It just seems like you're trying to convince yourself that you made a good call.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:27 pm to Korkstand
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You didn't ask if the price of a $1k phone is justified by what it can do, or by its quality, or by anything pertaining to its value. I might have said yes. You didn't ask if it's worth the money for what it is. I might have said yes. You didn't ask if the price is fair considering the cost of materials, labor, and R&D. I might have said yes. You asked if $1k for a phone is ridiculous. And I said it is.
These are literally all of the arguing points for whether or not it would be ridiculous. All of those things are the reasons why something is priced what it is priced
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:43 pm to NewBootGoofin
quote:Are you really trying to say that if the price of a thing is justified for reasons, then it can't be ridiculous? Do you need a lesson in the English language?
These are literally all of the arguing points for whether or not it would be ridiculous. All of those things are the reasons why something is priced what it is priced
Just assume that everyone who did NOT buy a $1k phone thinks that $1k for a phone is ridiculous.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:19 pm to NewBootGoofin
Yes.
Cheap phones are getting good for average consumers.
Cheap phones are getting good for average consumers.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:48 pm to bluebarracuda
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Yet one still fits in your pocket, and the other doesn't. The 2.2" difference is quite large.
Are you saying that it costs more to go from 7" to 5", than it does to go from 10" to 7"?
Why is the iPad mini less than the ipad pro?
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Since when can you communicate with other cell phones via voice?
I'm not sure what this means, but you do know you can make calls to other apple devices with an ipad as an extension of your phone. I can literally see my wife's text messagess to other iphones as they happen from home on our iPad, while she's at work.
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The 10" iPad Pro with LTE is $750, which shows you pay the premium for the more portable device
It shows people are willing to pay a premium that apple makes them perceive as a premium.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:19 pm to NewBootGoofin
Yes. Paticularly considering you can get an android altermative with equal or better performance for 1/3rd less.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:51 am to Boatshoes
You don’t even need to look to Android. The rumors suggest the successor to the iPhone 8 will be an edge to edge screen phone like the X, but just a regular screen and not OLED. I don’t know if it will have FaceID or not, but even if it doesn’t at that point the question becomes is it ridiculous to pay $350 extra for OLED and FaceID. I’d say yes. Just like I think it’s ridiculous to buy an OLED TV at the current premium even though they are amazing. Some people think I’m ridiculous for saying that, but those people are the kind of people that would buy an OLED TV at the current prices.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 6:20 am
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:08 am to NewBootGoofin
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Is $1,000 for a phone that ridiculous?
Depends. For the average user I would say, yes. For the busy person on the go, no; it's an investment in an essential business tool.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:06 am to GurleyGirl
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For the busy person on the go, no; it's an investment in an essential business tool.
This is nonsense.
A $1000 phone doesnt have any features a business person needs that a $500 phone doesnt. Slightly higher res screen, slightly faster cpu, slightly better graphics. Zero impact on day to day functions of the owner.
Only argument could be made is for warranty service, but you have to purchase that as an add-on to the phone in most cases.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:39 am to Korkstand
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Are you really trying to say that if the price of a thing is justified for reasons, then it can't be ridiculous
Actually.......... yes.
Paying $20,000 for a slice of bread would be ridiculous, because it is a slice of bread, and there are no reasons why it should be $20,000. Paying $20,000 for a car may or may not be considered ridiculous for reasons like how much it costs to make, what it can do, the amount of use you will get out of it...
I'm not sure how you're missing what I'm saying.
Whether or not the price of something is ridiculous or not literally depends on the reasons for its price. So yes, if the price of something is justified for reasons, then it would likely not be considered ridiculous.
I don't even own an iPhone X, so I'm not trying to validate a purchase. I started a thread to see if people thought that there were enough reasons for a phone to be worth $1,000. Relax
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:59 am to NewBootGoofin
quote:I'm not sure how you're missing the fact that "ridiculous" is a subjective term and that reasons, no matter how true or valid, don't matter.
I'm not sure how you're missing what I'm saying.
quote:No, whether or not something is ridiculous literally depends on what the subject thinks.
Whether or not the price of something is ridiculous or not literally depends on the reasons for its price.
quote:You can't just gloss over the fact that the reasons for the high price may themselves be ridiculous. Take, for example, the gold Apple Watch. The price is justified, it's made of gold. But it's still ridiculous.
So yes, if the price of something is justified for reasons, then it would likely not be considered ridiculous.
quote:And most of us said no, yet you keep trying to argue.
I started a thread to see if people thought that there were enough reasons for a phone to be worth $1,000.
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