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I'm looking for an 'alert' from when a GFCI outlet trips.

Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:56 am
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:56 am
I have an ice maker in my kitchen. The pump is plugged in to it's own GFCI outlet under the kitchen sink. Last night (or yesterday) the outlet tripped and the pump stopped working. I woke up to a little puddle on my floors. So I'm looking for something that will text/alert me if this happens again. Thankfully no damage this time. I know I could always change out the GFCI to a regular outlet, but I would prefer keep it for safety reasons. If the problem persists, I'll swap the outlet for another GFCI, but it's a pretty new house and the only time this has happened. Any suggestions?

Oh yeah, I do have a smartthings hub so I am thinking that would be my best bet.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:13 am to
Maybe a smart plug in and make an alert when it goes offline?
Posted by nismosao
Slidell
Member since Mar 2008
945 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:24 am to
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Maybe a smart plug in and make an alert when it goes offline?


This is the best way. If you want extra assurance, there are smart leak detectors that will let you know when water reaches a certain level that you input.
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:30 am to
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Maybe a smart plug in and make an alert when it goes offline?



I haven't used plugs with my smartthings yet. Is it pretty easy to setup an alert for this?
Posted by SaltyMcKracker
Member since Sep 2011
2969 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:46 am to

Reliance Control Corporation POWER FAIL LIGHT W/ALARM by RELIANCE CONTROLS MfrPartNo THP207M 1 Multi


Thus looks like it would work as long as you are home. Remote notification you can use a water leak detector
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:46 am to
Maybe an IFTTT thing will do. I haven't messed with it in awhile
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:50 am to
Leviton makes some GFCI outlets that will beep with they lose power, but I would prefer a remote notification for times when we aren't in town.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3956 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:00 pm to
You could just replace the outlet with a non-GFCI...

Otherwise, either a smart outlet or leak sensor. Only issue I see with a smart device is that if you lose power at the house, you’d have the same issue except your hub would not be able to alert you.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8445 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:07 pm to

Although I agree that an alert would be useful, Why not fix the item that is tripping the GFCI outlet? It's obviously leaking to ground, even a problem that is intermittant is still a problem that should be addressed.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33727 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:24 pm to
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Although I agree that an alert would be useful, Why not fix the item that is tripping the GFCI outlet? It's obviously leaking to ground, even a problem that is intermittant is still a problem that should be addressed.


This. Need to address why its tripping.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58516 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Maybe an IFTTT thing will do. I haven't messed with it in awhile


I have this on some smartthings devices. It is not easy and it works to a point. There are a lot of false reports.
Posted by southern686
Narnia
Member since Nov 2015
1066 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:15 pm to
Install regular outlet and be done.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58516 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Install regular outlet and be done.
and break code? if your hose burns down from something else, you could not be insured if they found it.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:40 pm to
What does your pump drain into? I'd consider fixing that issue personally. Is there a whole in the floor drain? Or does it literally pump the water out somewhere? You could install a like a boat bilge pump that turns on when there's water they are like $10-15, you can get batter operated ones too.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
7128 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 5:48 pm to
It is a pump that sits inside of the icemaker and pumps water up into the sink drain. It works similar to what you’re talking about, but it is made specifically for the icemaker.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 9:13 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:31 pm to
What I have done is take a plastic lid, to like a large storage bin and set your ice maker on it. Then if it leaks it leaks onto the lid. You could put a back up pump on the lid that’s battery powered. I’m guessing your pump feeds into the sink drain? You could just add a Y to your current drain like for this. The feet on the ice machine are set back from the door quite a bit so you don’t see the lid.

I’m assuming your water is coming from the ice thats’s melted?
Posted by Slim Chance
Member since Oct 2012
1626 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 6:41 pm to
You may not have a water source that's tripping the gfci, it just may be that the gfci is bad. They go out fairly regularly these days. I've had a couple I've had to change in my house and they haven't tripped since. It's like everything else these days, everything seems to be cheap garbage.
Posted by RowdyMcflowdy
Baton Rouge Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
295 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 7:24 pm to
Maybe I'm being unreasonable for thinking this, but what about finding the actual problem that is causing the GFCI to trip? I mean these things do not trip for funzies.
The GFCI is tripping for a reason. Maybe a problem with the wiring. Maybe it's an old house with aluminum wiring and all the plugs are loose now. Maybe the icemaker is going out and drawing too much amperage when the compressor kicks on. The point being that these things cut off because there was a problem detected.
Incidentally, replacing the GFCI with a regular outlet, will likely just cause the breaker at the breaker box to trip instead. If it doesn't, you probably just had a bad GFCI. They do wear out.
Good luck man, hope you get it figured out.
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