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Fully loaded android boxes illegal in Canada

Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:45 am
Posted by OntarioTiger
Canada
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:45 am


CDN supreme court ruled in favour of sat and cable companies vs some small retailers, no great surprise they ruled in favour of the companies. Its still legal to sell android boxes just not the loaded ones that most purchase. It will slow things a bit but in the end cord cutting will go on. I am a very happy android box/OTA tv user. The last weekend w/ the NCAA tourney was a real test – I got to watch what I wanted not the game they had locally.
My 15 yr old daughter struggles a bit w/ it finding an active stream for some shows but she is an impatient teenager and figures everything should be right there but thats ok she gets frustrated and reads a book ;)
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5070 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:54 am to
What do they consider "fully loaded"? Can it come with Kodi if none of the plugins are installed?
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:55 am to
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the loaded ones that most purchase.


Is this like the people that sell the Fire TV's preloaded with Kodi?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61503 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:23 am to
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It will slow things a bit but in the end cord cutting will go on.


I don't think it slows cord cutting at all. Does Kodi make RedBox and NetFlix DVD by mail irrelevant? Yes, but it's still way too slow, klunky and with too much variance in quality to be used as a replacement for TV. People are used to changing the channel and something new is playing a split second later. With Kodi you have to search what you want to watch and then spend 30+ seconds pulling up sources, then you have to choose a source and hope it's a good source with the quality you want and doesn't have Asian subtitles on it.

I'm not saying Kodi is bad, I think it will be to movie DVD rental/sales what Napster was to music. But Kodi has been way oversold on this board as THE solution to cord cutting. It's one tool cord cutters should have in their belt and it shouldn't be the main tool unless you're a poor college student living on Ramen. This board is not even close to representative of the average person.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43553 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:40 am to
I am just waiting for all of the studios, etc to sue amazon and force them to stop allowing kodi installs or even worse access to the users that are using it. I have no doubt that amazon is tracking this info.
Posted by ThaGenius
Cenla
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:42 am to
Search Flawless Hosting on facebook. You won't be disappointed.

ETA: Changed Name of FB group do not go to Nitro tv.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61503 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:58 am to
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Search Flawless IPTV on facebook. You won't be disappointed.


I did and then I went to the website they listed on their Facebook page which leads you to NitroTV. So for what is essentially curated Kodi you have to pay $20 per month? Son I am disappoint. I'd rather pay $20-$60 to a real TV service where the money goes to fund the programs I'm watching.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:01 am to
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I am just waiting for all of the studios, etc to sue amazon and force them to stop allowing kodi installs or even worse access to the users that are using it. I have no doubt that amazon is tracking this info.
The problem with taking the litigious route is it doesn't work. I mean, it might help their revenues a little bit in the short term, but you can't stop the people from getting what they want. If Amazon tries to block people from running Kodi, they will find a workaround. Or people can just use any of the numerous cheap Android boxes. The studios can't stop everyone in the world from hosting content online, and DRM will never, ever be successful in stopping piracy.

The only long-term solution the studios have is to give the people what they want (imagine that). And that is easy access to what they want to watch, when they want to watch it, at reasonable prices. People will pay. Look at Netflix, Amazon, and all the low-priced streaming services. Unfortunately, they are still hooked on the old model that lets them sell the same product to the same people multiple times. $15 at the theater, $5 digital rental, $20 blu ray (then another $20 for the next format), then they get money from HBO/etc., streaming services, and cable/network channels.

But people are tired of it, and they just don't have the money. I'm not saying that people are forced to pirate, but we live in a world where it's just too easy and it's going to happen. So the studios need to get smart about capitalizing on the tech rather than fighting it.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:01 am to
Also in the UK

due to the amount of streams of EPL matches out there.

Pubs were using them to show matches that can't be shown on tv in the UK.
Posted by ThaGenius
Cenla
Member since Jul 2013
652 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:12 am to
Their streams are very very reliable. I was skeptical with cutting out cable but Flawless truly makes it worth it. If using a Fire tv box you get an extensive amount of channels for a fraction of the price of cable and the menus are very easy to navigate. Fire tv sticks are a little bit slower but you'd expect that with the less ram.

ETA: Do NOT GO TO NITRO TV!!! Search Flawless Hosting.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:13 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61503 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:22 am to
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The only long-term solution the studios have is to give the people what they want (imagine that).


Yeah, like I said, I think Kodi is going to be to Movies what Napster was for Music. Once enough people started using Napster the music industry cut a deal with Apple and the rest is history.

Amazon seems to have taken over the streaming box market partly because of Kodi. They would seem like the natural choice for the movie industry to cut a deal with. "Reasonably priced" to me is really in line with RedBox/NetFlixDVD. Give us 6-8 HD movie streams for $10 per month, not the current $5 for 1 SD rental, and I think you'd find a lot of people stop using Kodi, and more importantly a lot of people never start.
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
11724 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:28 am to
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I did and then I went to the website they listed on their Facebook page which leads you to NitroTV. So for what is essentially curated Kodi you have to pay $20 per month? Son I am disappoint. I'd rather pay $20-$60 to a real TV service where the money goes to fund the programs I'm watching.


Flawless much more than curated Kodi. It's live TV, sports, PPV, etc. It can replace other services for live TV and then you can use Exodus for anything you don't watch live. Not sure what website you were sent to but flawless-hosting.net is where I go to pay for the service.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61503 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:36 am to
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Not sure what website you were sent to but flawless-hosting.net is where I go to pay for the service.


flawless-hosting.net is not a live website. www.flawlessiptv.net, which is the link on the facebook page for Flawless IPTV, redirects to www.nitroiptv.com I don't know if Nitro bought them or what, but they appear to be one in the same.

However, my basic point was paying $20 per month for curation of illegal streams rather than paying $20 per month for something like SlingTV is crazy. If you're actually going to pay money anyway you should pay money for content creation, not easy leeching. The system doesn't work if everyone's a leech.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:37 am
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
11724 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:47 am to
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flawless-hosting.net is not a live website. www.flawlessiptv.net, which is the link on the facebook page for Flawless IPTV, redirects to www.nitroiptv.com I don't know if Nitro bought them or what, but they appear to be one in the same.

However, my basic point was paying $20 per month for curation of illegal streams rather than paying $20 per month for something like SlingTV is crazy. If you're actually going to pay money anyway you should pay money for content creation, not easy leeching. The system doesn't work if everyone's a leech.


Flawless-hosting.net brings me to the login page. Not sure why it isn't working for you.



I have two streams on my account and my BIL and I each pay $22 quarterly. If you want a legit service like Sling that's fine but Flawless will be cheaper and will give you much more. If you feel that people should pay for legit services why are you spending time looking into something like Flawless?
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:49 am to
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my basic point was paying $20 per month for curation of illegal streams rather than paying $20 per month for something like SlingTV is crazy.


Yea to me the $35/mth that I pay for DTVNow is worth it (until it goes up at which point I'll research PSVue in the Lafayette area again or go back to Sling...who knows when that will be). Also I've always had Hulu and Netflix so I don't really see much benefit in cancelling those.

I basically use Kodi for movies and a stop gap on shows that we can't catch when they are on and they aren't on hulu. I realize that Kodi could probably completely replace Netflix and Hulu....but I'm interested in what innovations those companies make next...especially Hulu's upcoming OTT service.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:51 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61503 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:56 am to
I saw that acronym and my brain translated it as WhoIs and thought it was a domain parking page.

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If you feel that people should pay for legit services why are you spending time looking into something like Flawless?


Because I was told I wouldn't be disappointed. We need a certain amount of people bucking the system to force business models to change, but most of us need to work within the system or the system breaks and nobody gets what they want.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:57 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78081 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:33 am to
how lazy are people that they want pirated shite set up for them to buy on ebay or amazon?
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:20 pm to
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how lazy are people that they want pirated shite set up for them to buy on ebay or amazon?


The real tragedy is that many people think a FTV has to be jail broken to install Kodi and Exodus.

Very few people take pride in educating themselves.....the problem is we live in a day and age where educating yourself has never been easier.
Posted by drewnbrla
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:24 pm to
Canada doesn't exist
Posted by drewnbrla
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Member since Mar 2011
7839 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:27 pm to
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how lazy are people that they want pirated shite set up for them to buy on ebay or amazon?


Go check out the Electronics section on your local Craigslist page. All kinds of people selling Fire sticks, android boxes, chromecast's and any other streaming device "Pre-installed with Kodi" for at least twice the purchase price of the unit itself.

Kodi is free and a sucker is born every second. It's sad.
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